NOMINATION OF DAVID CUMMINS, NOMINEE TO BE ADMINISTRATOR, TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

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[Senate Hearing 119-538]
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 NOMINATION OF DAVID CUMMINS,
 NOMINEE TO BE ADMINISTRATOR,
 TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION,
 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

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 HEARING

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 COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE,
 SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION
 UNITED STATES SENATE

 ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

 SECOND SESSION
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 JULY 16, 2026
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 SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION

 ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

 SECOND SESSION

 TED CRUZ, Texas, Chairman
 
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota MARIA CANTWELL, Washington, 
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi Ranking
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JERRY MORAN, Kansas BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee GARY PETERS, Michigan
TODD YOUNG, Indiana TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
TED BUDD, North Carolina TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JOHN CURTIS, Utah BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
TIM SHEEHY, Montana JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia ANDY KIM, New Jersey
CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware

 Brad Grantz, Republican Staff Director
 Nicole Christus, Republican Deputy Staff Director
 Lila Harper Helms, Staff Director
 Melissa Porter, Deputy Staff Director
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 C O N T E N T S

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Hearing held on July 16, 2026.................................... 1
Statement of Senator Cruz........................................ 1
Statement of Senator Kim......................................... 2
 Letter dated July 15, 2026 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria 
 Cantwell from Daniel Horowitz, Legislative Director, 
 American Federation of Government Employees................ 4
Statement of Senator Moreno...................................... 18
Statement of Senator Blackburn................................... 20
Statement of Senator Fischer..................................... 21
Statement of Senator Hickenlooper................................ 23
Statement of Senator Peters...................................... 26
Statement of Senator Fetterman................................... 27

 Witnesses

David Cummins, Nominee to be Administrator, Transportation 
 Security Administration, Department of Homeland Security....... 5
 Prepared statement........................................... 6
 Biographical information..................................... 7

 Appendix

Response to written questions submitted to David Cummins by:
 Hon. Roger Wicker............................................ 31
 Hon. Dan Sullivan............................................ 31
 Hon. Cynthia Lummis.......................................... 32
 Hon. Maria Cantwell.......................................... 33
 Hon. Amy Klobuchar........................................... 37
 Hon. Edward Markey........................................... 37
 Hon. Gary Peters............................................. 38
 Hon. Tammy Duckworth......................................... 40
 Hon. Jacky Rosen............................................. 46
 Hon. John Hickenlooper....................................... 47
 Hon. Brian Schatz............................................ 48

 
 NOMINATION OF DAVID CUMMINS,
 NOMINEE TO BE ADMINISTRATOR,
 TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION,
 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

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 THURSDAY, JULY 16, 2026

 U.S. Senate,
 Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
 Washington, DC.
 The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:34 a.m., in 
room SR-253, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Ted Cruz, 
Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
 Present: Senators Cruz [presiding], Fischer, Moran, 
Blackburn, Moreno, Peters, Hickenlooper, Fetterman, and Kim.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. TED CRUZ, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM TEXAS

 The Chairman. Good morning. The Senate Committee on 
Commerce, Science, and Transportation will come to order.
 Today, we consider the nomination of David Cummins to be 
the next Administrator of the Transportation Security 
Administration. Mr. Cummins' nomination comes at a crucial time 
for the TSA. In the past year, TSA employees had to work for 
nearly three months without a paycheck due to two pointless, 
unnecessary, and damaging Democrat-imposed shutdowns. Due to 
the second roughly 75-day shutdown, the TSA has now lost more 
than 1,100 employees because the Democrats thought it was a 
good idea to shut down the government and to stop paying people 
whose job it is to help keep air travel safe.
 The efficient and secure operation of our Nation's airports 
is vital to the smooth flow of commerce and travel for 
Americans. The TSA is central to that mission. It is my hope 
that under the leadership of David Cummins, the TSA will focus 
on its mission, continuously innovate to stay ahead of emerging 
threats, adapt to new traveler trends, and improve employee 
morale.
 Mr. Cummins has spent more than two decades of private 
sector experience leading transportation technology, mobility, 
and government services operations. In his recent role as 
Senior Vice President of citizen services at Serco, Inc., he 
managed a 5,000 employee division with over $600 million in 
revenue. He's also held senior roles at Xerox's transportation 
and government services business, and led operations planning 
for the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Winter Games. With nearly 
65,000 employees today, the TSA functions much like a complex, 
large corporation. As a private sector business executive, Mr. 
Cummins has the acumen that is needed to keep an organization 
like the TSA lean, focused, and operating smoothly. He has 
already identified screening technology modernization, 
workforce morale, and improving the traveler experience as 
priorities for his tenure as administrator.
 Mr. Cummins will also take the helm at a time when TSA is 
focused on modernizing the Agency. After 9/11, the U.S. 
endeavored to create the most secure transportation system in 
the world. In recent years, however, the TSA has struggled to 
roll out new technology at airports, including top-of-the-line 
baggage and identity verification technologies. Some estimates 
suggest the TSA will not fully deploy these new technologies 
until the 2040s. This timeline is simply unacceptable. 
Innovative thinking will be needed to change the TSA's current 
trajectory. This fall marks 25 years since the September 11 
terror attacks. The Administration should be thoughtfully 
evaluating the success of the TSA. Congress should similarly 
evaluate whether the TSA functions as an agile security Agency 
and why its modernization has been so often mired in 
bureaucracy.
 Between TSA's management and modernization efforts, 
technology procurement, delayed cybersecurity rules and 
reliance on security directives, and the commercialization of 
drone operations, the TSA needs an administrator who's prepared 
to tackle significant challenges. Mr. Cummins will bring 
practical management background and has the expertise to lead 
the TSA as it seeks to improve operational performance, 
technology modernization, and service delivery headed into 
2030. I look forward to hearing from Mr. Cummins about his 
vision for the TSA and how he will further the mission of 
ensuring safe and efficient transportation for all Americans. 
And with that, I recognize Ranking Member Kim for his opening.

 STATEMENT OF HON. ANDY KIM, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM NEW JERSEY

 Senator Kim. Thank you, Chairman. Mr. Cummins, 
congratulations on your nomination, and thank you for being 
here.
 We are approaching the solemn milestone of 25 years since 
the attack of September 11, 2001. In the aftermath of that 
devastating day, we realized that a fragmented, privatized, and 
inconsistent aviation security framework was a vulnerability we 
could no longer afford. Congress established the Transportation 
Security Agency to ensure that securing our transportation 
systems was treated as a unified and deliberate Federal 
national security mission. We must rededicate ourselves to 
ensuring the highest levels of transportation security for the 
traveling public.
 TSA needs an effective leader that can ensure the Agency 
proactively predicts, acts, and prevents transportation 
security risks. The 9/11 Commission Report specifically warned 
we need a multilayered security system that depends on a highly 
trained, federally accountable workforce. It's crucial that the 
next TSA Administrator supports a strong TSA workforce and 
listens to frontline personnel to achieve this mission.
 However, the President's proposed Fiscal Year 2027 budget 
request seeks to cut more than 9,400 TSA personnel through 
expanding privatized screening and other initiatives. In short, 
the administration wants to reduce personnel in favor of 
automated technology deployment. This includes a proposed 
expansion of the Screening Partnership Program--the SPP--with 
new aims. Currently, only 21 out of the roughly 440 commercial 
airports nationwide participate in SPP. The vast majority rely 
on Federal transportation security officers, despite already 
having option of choosing private contractors. Instead of 
keeping this program voluntary for airports to opt into, 
smaller Category III and IV airports would be required to 
apply, and the administration is seeking additional authorities 
with the goal of fully privatizing these airports. If 
implemented, this expansion would result in $52 million in net 
savings by slashing thousands of Federal TSA positions from the 
budget rolls and stripping public servants of their right under 
the existing collective bargaining agreements. In addition, we 
risk compromising security oversight of vital screening 
technologies.
 The Trump administration's new TSA Gold+ program would not 
only outsource personnel but would also allow private 
contractors to manage, procure, and upgrade sensitive screening 
technologies and equipment. The GAO found that TSA repeatedly 
struggles to ensure its deployment screening technologies 
maintain strict detection requirements over their lifecycle. If 
the Federal Government already struggles with the--with 
oversight, delegating these critical acquisition and 
maintenance roles to private vendors under the new TSA Gold+ 
program makes no sense. This would only serve to further weaken 
TSA's operational controls over some of the most sensitive 
technology in aviation security. Mr. Cummins, these proposals 
would hurt the very workforce dedicated to the security of the 
traveling public each day. Private contractors answer to the 
bottom line, incentivizing them to cut labor costs, and the 
TSA's privatization push is built on offloading its highest 
expenditure personnel compensation and benefits.
 And let's remember, TSA's critical transportation security 
mandate extends far beyond our airports. Our pipelines, 
freight, and passenger rail systems are under constant threat 
from cyber adversaries. Following the Colonial Pipeline attack 
in 2021, TSA utilized its statutory authority to issue urgent 
mandatory security directives to secure our surface 
transportation systems. However, the Agency has still not 
finalized in its November 2024 proposed rulemaking to 
permanently codify these performance-based risk--cyber risk 
requirements. Swiftly issuing the rule has a bipartisan mandate 
in the Senate-passed Pipeline Safeties Act.
 We must be clear-eyed about what we could lose under the 
administration's budget cuts and anti-worker initiatives. TSOs 
have stood on the front line of our transportation system, 
keeping the flying public safe and the economy moving, and they 
are sounding the alarm. Representing over 45,000 TSOs at more 
than 400 airports nationwide, the president of the American 
Federation of Government Employees recently testified to 
Congress, ``Technology alone cannot replace experienced 
personnel at checkpoints. That eye, that deescalation, you need 
an experienced TSO to do that job, and they do it well.''
 I ask unanimous consent to enter into the record a letter 
from AFGE asking the Committee to obtain clear testimony from 
Mr. Cummins to commit to uphold TSO collective bargaining 
rights and honoring related court orders to not expand 
privatization of airport security screening, and to explain how 
his qualifications prepare him for this transportation security 
role.
 The Chairman. Without objection, it'll be entered into the 
record.
 [The information referred to follows:]

 American Federation of Government Employees
 July 15, 2026

Hon. Ted Cruz,
Chairman,
Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
United States Senate,
Washington, DC.
Hon. Maria Cantwell,
Ranking Member,
Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
United States Senate,
Washington, DC.

Dear Chairman Cruz and Ranking Member Cantwell:

 On behalf of the American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-
CIO (AFGE), which represents more than 45,000 Transportation Security 
Officers (TSOs) at over 400 commercial airports, I write regarding the 
July 16 hearing on the nomination of David Cummins to be Administrator 
of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Before the Senate 
considers consenting to this nomination, AFGE urges the Committee to 
obtain clear, on-the-record answers from the nominee in three key 
areas.
 First, Mr. Cummins must commit to upholding TSOs' collective 
bargaining rights and honoring the court-affirmed collective bargaining 
agreement with AFGE. A Federal court has twice ruled against the 
Department of Homeland Security's attempts to terminate the 2024 
collective bargaining agreement, most recently holding on January 15, 
2026, that the Department's conduct violated a preliminary injunction 
``by its plain terms.'' That contract remains in force. Yet in written 
responses to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental 
Affairs, Mr. Cummins asserted that collective bargaining agreements 
``interfere with critical national security functions.'' That same 
collective bargaining agreement, with the 2023 pay improvements, cut 
TSO attrition nearly in half. Then-Administrator David Pekoske said 
that without them ``we probably wouldn't have a TSA in five or 10 
years.'' The nominee must commit unequivocally to comply with all court 
orders, honor the CBA, and recognize the representative the workforce 
chose by secret ballot in 2011.
 Second, Mr. Cummins must commit not to expand privatization of 
airport security screening. Congress federalized security screening in 
the after of the September 11 attack because the private screening 
contractor model failed. The Administration's FY 2027 budget 
nonetheless calls for eliminating 8,400 TSO positions and mandating 
private screening at over 200 Category III and Category IV commercial 
airports nationwide. Additionally, the agency is racing ahead with its 
opaque TSA Gold+ plan under which private vendors would control both 
the screening workforce and the screening technology itself. In his 
written answers to HSGAC, Mr. Cummins praised privatized airports' 
shutdown performance and pledged to expand public-private partnerships.
 However, even industry stakeholders testifying before the House 
Homeland Security Committee in May stated on the record that they were 
against mandatory privatization. The Senate Commerce Committee should 
insist that the nominee halt the current TSA Gold+ procurement pending 
full congressional review and oppose any mandatory expansion.
 Third, Mr. Cummins must explain to the Committee his background and 
qualifications in transportation security. Nearly every previous 
Senate-confirmed TSA administrator brought significant transportation 
security experience. Administrator Pekoske served as Vice Commandant of 
the U.S. Coast Guard. Administrator John Pistole served as Deputy 
Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Administrator 
James Loy served as Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard. Mr. Cummins' 
own questionnaire cites only private-sector contracting roles and the 
2002 Winter Olympics. With the FIFA World Cup underway, the 2028 Summer 
Olympics approaching, and amid the current conflict with Iran, the next 
administrator must be prepared on day one to protect the traveling 
public.
 TSOs have endured the two longest government shutdowns in American 
history, working 43 days without pay in late 2025 and another 75 days 
during the 2026 DHS funding lapse. Officers slept in their cars, sold 
their own plasma, and received eviction notices while screening nearly 
three million passengers a day. More than 2,100 trained officers left 
TSA in under seven months in response to the shutdowns. It is paramount 
that the next TSA administrator and the U.S. Congress work to rebuild 
the significant decline in morale among TSOs and build on the vast 
skill and experience the current TSO workforce provides.
 TSOs have kept an unblemished security record through extraordinary 
adversity. They deserve a Senate-confirmed leader worthy of them. Thank 
you.
 Sincerely,
 Daniel Horowitz,
 Legislative Director.

 Senator Kim. Last, there have been reports that your former 
contracting firm, Serco, has trained ICE enforcement officers 
and been criticized by human rights groups for their 
immigration detention centers overseas. I hope you can help the 
Committee shed some light on those issues. And with that, thank 
you, and I yield back.
 The Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Cummins, you're recognized for 
your opening statement.

 STATEMENT OF DAVID CUMMINS,

 NOMINEE TO BE ADMINISTRATOR,

 TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

 Mr. Cummins. Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Kim, and 
distinguished members of this committee, I'm deeply honored to 
be considered as President Trump's nominee to lead the 
Transportation Security Administration. I want to begin by 
thanking my wife, Kristen, and our four children, whose 
patience and unwavering support have made it possible for me to 
be here today. I also want to thank President Trump and 
Secretary Mullen. I am deeply honored by the trust they have 
placed in me and the encouragement they have provided.
 A few weeks ago, I met a TSA officer, or TSO, from Dallas 
Fort Worth Airport named Lucy. If Lucy were standing here 
today, she would remind us that 25 years ago, our Nation 
changed forever when hijacked airlines were used as weapons. 
She would tell you that she still carries that weight every 
morning as she walks past the Not on Our Watch sign to her 
post. Lucy told me that during this last government shutdown, 
she and her fellow officers weren't just struggling for months 
to pay rent, gas, and childcare. They were struggling to even 
feed their families. I also visited Los Angeles and 
Indianapolis where I learned that TSOs relied on local food 
banks just to keep their households fed.
 TSOs like Lucy have a zero fail national security mission. 
There is too much at stake to have them distracted by months 
without pay. If confirmed, we will explore various ways to 
protect our people, including the expansion of the Screening 
Partnership Program, or SPP. Some will suggest that the SPP is 
all about privatization and that it is anti-worker. I hold that 
it is, in fact, pro-worker to pay your employees, as the SPP 
airports did during the last shutdowns. The opt-in expansion of 
the SPP will leverage the resources of the private sector to 
make our Nation's security more resilient to political theater.
 Over the last 25 years, as the horrors of 9/11 have 
naturally grown less vivid, our frontline TSOs and Federal air 
marshals have increasingly felt undervalued by a Nation that 
has sometimes lost sight of their critical role. We owe them a 
debt of gratitude. If confirmed, my very first responsibility 
will be to go out to our airports, look Lucy and her colleagues 
in the eyes, and show them how deeply they are appreciated. I 
want them to know how essential their mission is and that I 
will do everything in my power to protect and support them in 
the future.
 These vanguards at our checkpoints also tell me that an 
upgrade of our technology is long overdue. They want us to 
rapidly deploy next-generation baggage scanning and passenger 
screening systems to make their work more secure and efficient. 
I am committed to the modernization of our aviation security 
and to ensuring that TSA is positioned to stay ahead of 
emerging threats. We do not have to choose between a secure 
checkpoint, an efficient checkpoint, or an elevated traveler 
experience. In fact, our mission demands that we achieve all 
three at once. That is President Trump's and Secretary Mullen's 
vision for the TSA, and it's what the American people 
rightfully expect of this Agency.
 I come before you today not as a bureaucrat, but as a 
transportation executive and technologist. My 25-year career 
spans the entire transportation system, including urban 
mobility, highway safety, port security, and air traffic 
control. I will bring this experience and innovation to help 
the TSA secure what this administration calls the golden age of 
travel. Lucy and her colleagues can and will achieve security, 
efficiency, and a courteous experience for the traveling 
public.
 Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Kim, and distinguished 
members of this committee, the challenges ahead are 
significant, but the opportunities to transform the TSC--TSA on 
the eve of its 25th anniversary are even greater. Thank you for 
your time, your commitment, and your vital oversight.
 [The prepared statement and biographical information of Mr. 
Cummins follow:]

 Prepared Statement of David Cummins, Nominee to be Administrator, 
Transportation Security Administration, Department of Homeland Security
 Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and distinguished members 
of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you 
today as President Trump's nominee to be the next Administrator of the 
Transportation Security Administration (TSA). It is an honor to be 
considered for this critical national security position, and if 
confirmed, I look forward to the opportunity to work with Secretary 
Mullin, the Department of Homeland Security and its component agencies, 
and Congress to carry out the mission to secure our skies and protect 
the traveling public.
 I am humbled by the trust placed in me to lead TSA at a time when 
our Nation faces evolving security challenges and increasing demands on 
our transportation systems. Throughout my career, I have worked closely 
with federal, state, and local partners, as well as with industry and 
private sector stakeholders, to address complex issues and to foster 
collaboration across the transportation sector. I have served in 
positions that require strategic vision and operational excellence, and 
I have consistently prioritized transparency, accountability, and 
innovation. I believe these qualities are essential for leading TSA.
 If confirmed, my top priority will be to ensure that TSA continues 
to fulfill its mission of protecting the Nation's transportation 
systems to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce. I 
recognize the importance of maintaining the highest standards of 
security while also respecting the privacy, civil rights, and civil 
liberties of all passengers. I am committed to supporting TSA's 
workforce and providing them with the tools, training, and resources 
they need to succeed.
 Transportation security is a shared responsibility, and I believe 
that open communication and collaboration are vital to mission success. 
I will focus on strengthening partnerships with our industry and 
private sector partners, leveraging their expertise and resources to 
advance security. I will work to foster a culture within TSA that 
welcomes and celebrates innovation, encouraging the adoption of 
cutting-edge technology to enhance security, all while improving the 
passenger experience.
 Finally, if confirmed, I commit to regularly engaging with Congress 
and this Committee, to provide timely information, respond to 
congressional oversight requests, and working collaboratively to 
strengthen transportation security to ensure the agency is transparent 
with and accountable to the American taxpayer.
 Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and distinguished Members 
of this Committee, thank you again for the opportunity to appear before 
you today. I am honored to be nominated and look forward to your 
questions.
 ______
 
 a. biographical information
 1. Name (Include any former names or nicknames used):

 David Preston Cummins, with no nicknames

 2. Position to which nominated: TSA Administrator.
 3. Date of Nomination: May 11, 2026 officially submitted to Senate.
 4. Address (List current place of residence and office addresses):

 Residence: Information not released to the public.
 Office: Information not provided.

 5. Date and Place of Birth: Information not provided.
 6. Provide the name, position, and place of employment for your 
spouse (if married) or domestic partner, and the names and ages of your 
children (including stepchildren and children by a previous marriage).

 Spouse: Kristin Cummins, Owner, Ramsbury Real Estate Group, LLC

 7. List all college and graduate schools attended, whether or not 
you were granted a degree by the institution. Provide the name of the 
institution, the dates attended, the degree received, and the date of 
the degree.

 Messiah University, 1990-1994, B.A. in Political Science

 George Washington University, 1994-1997, M.A. in 
 International Affairs

 University of Michigan, 1998-2000, M.B.A.

 8. List all post-undergraduate employment, including the job title, 
name of employer, and inclusive dates of employment, and highlight all 
management-level jobs held and any non-managerial jobs that relate to 
the position for which you are nominated.

 1994-1998: Financial Officer, AED, Inc.

 2000-2001: Director of Strategy and Business Development, 
 Arbros Communications

 2002: Director of Operations, Salt Lake Winter Olympic 
 Committee
 Relevance: Security and Transportation Operations

 2002-2016: Senior Vice President, Mobility Solutions, Xerox, 
 Inc.
 Relevance: Transportation Solutions & Operations

 April 2026: Senior Vice President, Citizen Services, Serco, 
 Inc.
 Relevance: Transportation Solutions & Operations

 9. Attach a copy of your resume.
 Attached.
 10. List any advisory, consultative, honorary, or other part-time 
service or positions with Federal, State, or local governments, other 
than those listed above after 18 years of age.

 Member, Advisory Committee, Virginia Health Benefit Exchange 
 (appointed by Governor)
 (Plan to resign upon Senate confirmation.)

 11. List all positions held as an officer, director, trustee, 
partner, proprietor, agent, representative, or consultant of any 
corporation, company, firm, partnership, or other business, enterprise, 
educational, or other institution.

 Member, Board of Directors, Valley Forge Military Academy (Plan 
 to resign upon Senate confirmation.)

 12. List all memberships you have had after 18 years of age or 
currently hold with any civic, social, charitable, educational, 
political, professional, fraternal, benevolent or religiously 
affiliated organization, private club, or other membership organization 
(You do not have to list your religious affiliation or membership in a 
religious house of worship or institution). Include dates of membership 
and any positions you have held with any organization. Please note 
whether any such club or organization restricts membership on the basis 
of sex, race, color, religion, national origin, age, or disability. 
None.
 13. Have you ever been a candidate for and/or held a public office 
(elected, non-elected, or appointed)? If so, indicate whether any 
campaign has any outstanding debt, the amount, and whether you are 
personally liable for that debt. None.
 14. List all memberships and offices held with and services 
rendered to, whether compensated or not, any political party or 
election committee within the past ten years. If you have held a paid 
position or served in a formal or official advisory position (whether 
compensated or not) in a political campaign within the past ten years, 
identify the particulars of the campaign, including the candidate, year 
of the campaign, and your title and responsibilities. None.
 15. Itemize all political contributions to any individual, campaign 
organization, political party, political action committee, or similar 
entity of $200 or more for the past ten years.

 Serco Political Action Committee Contributions by Year:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Fiscal Year Deduction Total Deduction Amt
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2017 PAC $2.681.76
2018 PAC $2,905.24
2019 PAC $3,290.43
2020 PAC $5,000.00
2021* PAC $4,999.80
2022 PAC $4,999.80
2023 PAC $4,999.80
2024 PAC $4,999.80
2025 PAC $4,999.80
2026 PAC $1,923.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 $40,799.43
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Additionally in 2021: $2,000 Donation for Glenn Youngkin for Governor

 16. List all scholarships, fellowships, honorary degrees, honorary 
society memberships, military medals, and any other special recognition 
for outstanding service or achievements. None.
 17. List all books, articles, columns, letters to the editor, 
Internet blog postings, or other publications you have authored, 
individually or with others. Include a link to each publication when 
possible. If a link is not available, provide a digital copy of the 
publication when available.

 Spotify Podcast Episode
 https://open.spotify.com/episode/
 3WpgSYRck6ocFHpODlevjW

 18. List all speeches, panel discussions, and presentations (e.g., 
PowerPoint) that you have given on topics relevant to the position for 
which you have been nominated. Include a link to each publication when 
possible. If a link is not available, provide a digital copy of the 
speech or presentation when available.
 None relevant to this position.
 19. List all public statements you have made during the past ten 
years, including statements in news articles and radio and podcasts and 
television appearances, which are on topics relevant to the position 
for which you have been nominated, including dates. Include a link to 
each statement when possible. If a link is not available, provide a 
digital copy of the statement when available.
 I have not made any public statements directly relevant to the 
position for which I have been nominated. However, I have been cited or 
featured in various media outlets on topics related to transportation 
and technology. The following is a list of those citations, with links 
provided where available:

 YouTube Interview
 https://www.youtube.com/
 watch?app=desktop&v=dMlCcCk45SA

 ITS International: Xerox Takes a Youthful View of the Future 
 of Transport
 https://www.itsinternational.com/its8/feature/xerox-
 takes-youthful-view-future-transport

 Forbes: How Xerox Uses Analytics, Bi2 Data, and Ethnography 
 to Help Government Solve Big Problems
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/benkerschberg/2012/10/22/
 how-xerox-uses-analytics-big-data-and-ethnography-to-help-
 government-solve-big-problems/

 Conduent: Xerox CitySight Data Analytics Solution Helps 
 Parking Enforcement Officers
 https://www.news.conduent.com/news/Xerox-CitySight-
 Data-Analytics-Solution-Helps-Parking-Enforcement-Officers

 Democrat & Chronicle: Xerox, Michigan, and Driverless Cars
 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/money/
 business/2014/05/06/xerox-michigan-driverless-cars/8781689/

 ExecutiveBiz: Xerox Parking Meter Modernization Earns 
 Indianapolis 3M; David Cummins Comments
 https://www.executivebiz.com/articles/xerox-parking-
 meter-modernization-eams-indianapolis-3m-david-cummins-
 comments

 StateScoop: Xerox Unveils Parking Enforcement Management 
 Tool
 https://statescoop.com/xerox-unveils-parking-
 enforcement-management-tool/

 Xerox UK News: Xerox and Dutch Start-Up Share Prestigious 
 Innovation Award
 https://news.xerox.co.uk/news/xerox-and-dutch-start-
 up-share-prestigious-innovation-award

 StateTech Magazine: Indianapolis Streamlines Parking 
 Payments
 https://statetechmagazine.com/article/2014/05/
 indianapolis-streamlines-parking-payments

 ITS International: Xerox Kicks ITS America San Jose into 
 High Gear
 https://www.itsinternational.com/news/xerox-kicks-its-
 america-san-jose-high-gear-wheels-things

 Conduent: New Go Centennial Transportation App
 https://www.news.conduent.com/news/new-Go-Centennial-
 transportation-app

 Streetsblog California: Garcetti, LADOT, and Xerox Announce 
 New GoLA Multi-Modal App
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 20. List all digital platforms (including social media and other 
digital content sites) on which you currently or have formerly operated 
an account, regardless of whether or not the account was held in your 
name or an alias. Include the full name of an ``alias'' or ``handle'', 
including the complete URL and username with hyperlinks, you have used 
on each of the named platforms. Indicate whether the account is active, 
deleted, or dormant. Include a link to each account if possible.

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 Username: cumminsdavid
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 Facebook
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 21. Please identify each instance in which you have testified 
orally or in writing before Congress in a governmental or non-
governmental capacity and specify the date, committee, and subject 
matter of each testimony. None.
 22. Given the current mission, major programs, and major 
operational objectives of the department/agency/commission/corporation 
to which you have been nominated, what in your background or employment 
experience do you believe affirmatively qualifies you for appointment 
to the position for which you have been nominated, and why do you wish 
to serve in that position?
 I have served as a business executive and technologist in the U.S. 
and global transportation industry for the past 25 years. My 
professional experience with the Salt Lake Winter Olympics Committee, 
Xerox, Inc., and Serco, Inc. has provided me with a unique and 
comprehensive perspective that qualifies me to serve as the 
Administrator of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). 
Throughout my career, I have developed broad expertise in venue 
management and security, electronic toll collection, mass transit, air 
traffic control, Department of Motor Vehicles operations, and 
facilities management for the U.S. Air Force.
 For the past 25 years, I have delivered innovative solutions to 
government clients and now seek to serve my country directly through 
Federal service. If confirmed, I will leverage my experience and 
expertise to advance the modernization of TSA and strengthen its 
mission over the next five years.
 23. What do you believe are your responsibilities, if confirmed, to 
ensure that the department/agency/commission/corporation has proper 
management and accounting controls, and what experience do you have in 
managing a large organization?
 If confirmed, I will be ultimately responsible for overseeing the 
strategy, operations, technology, and budget of the Transportation 
Security Administration (TSA) in support of its mission to protect the 
Nation's transportation systems and ensure freedom of movement for 
people and commerce. This includes ensuring that TSA maintains proper 
management and accounting controls to safeguard its resources, promote 
transparency, and achieve operational excellence.
 My prior experience includes managing a division at Serco with more 
than 5,000 employees, which has prepared me to lead large, complex 
organizations. This background has equipped me with the skills 
necessary to implement effective management practices, maintain robust 
financial controls, and advance TSA's objectives efficiently and 
responsibly.
 24. What do you believe to be the top three challenges facing the 
department/agency/commission/corporation, and why?
Modernizing Screening Technology at Airports:
 The Transportation Security Administration has faced significant 
capital constraints and underfunding of its technology needs in recent 
years. Consequently, many airports across the country continue to rely 
on outdated screening technology. Deploying state-of-the-art screening 
solutions is essential to strengthening security and enhancing the 
passenger experience.
 Additionally, the process for testing, approving, and deploying new 
technology is highly bureaucratic. As a result, innovation is delayed 
and it takes years to roll out new technologies, which can create a 
dangerous lag between adapting to emerging threats and the agency's 
ability to deploy the cutting-edge security technology needed to combat 
the threats.
Improving Workforce Morale:
 Improving workforce morale and recruiting top people to serve at 
TSA. I imagine that many people in the TSA workforce, and people 
considering joining TSA, do not currently have confidence that their 
paycheck will always be there when it is supposed to be. It will take 
strong leadership at TSA to retain its top talent and recruit top new 
talent. After enduring the two longest shutdowns in history and 
enduring many hardships, we need TSA to remain an employer of choice.
Enhancing the Traveler Experience:
 Going through airport security is necessary but it doesn't need to 
be overly burdensome on the American people. By embracing modernization 
and private-sector partnerships, we can make air travel more efficient 
and enjoyable for the American traveler. This means thinking outside of 
the box to come up with solutions that not only maintain the highest 
security standards but that will explore ways to make travel more 
convenient.
 b. potential conflicts of interest
 1. Describe all financial arrangements, deferred compensation 
agreements, and other continuing dealings with business associates, 
clients, or customers. Please include information related to retirement 
accounts, such as a 401(k) or pension plan.
 I maintain a 401(k) retirement account with Serco, Inc., which is 
invested in exchange-traded funds (ETFs) and does not include Serco 
stock. I am currently in the process of rolling over these funds into 
my brokerage account, where they will be allocated to non-industry 
transportation ETFs.
 2. Do you have any commitments or agreements, formal or informal, 
to maintain employment, affiliation, or practice with any business, 
association, or other organization during your appointment? If so, 
please explain.
 I currently serve on the Advisory Committee for the Virginia Health 
Benefit Exchange in a non-fiduciary capacity. If confirmed by the 
Senate, I intend to resign from this position. Additionally, I am a 
member of the Board of Directors of the Valley Forge Military Academy 
and likewise plan to resign from this role upon confirmation.
 3. Indicate any investments, obligations, liabilities, or other 
relationships which could involve potential conflicts of interest in 
the position to which you have been nominated. Explain how you will 
resolve each potential conflict of interest.
 Other than the Serco 401(k) referenced above, for which my Serco 
stock options have already been sold, I have no investments, 
obligations, liabilities, or relationships that could present a 
potential conflict of interest. My spouse operates a real estate 
business that develops and manages properties in Washington, D.C., 
Virginia, and Florida. All properties are residential, with the 
exception of two small row homes in Washington, D.C., which serve as 
boutique offices (approximately ten offices in each). None of her 
tenants provide services to the Transportation Security Administration, 
and she will ensure that future clients do not.
 All residential properties generating rental income are managed 
exclusively by Ramsbury Real Estate Group, LLC, a licensed real estate 
firm owned and operated solely by my spouse, Kristin Cummins. I have no 
involvement in the day-to-day operations, tenant selection, lease 
negotiations, or financial management of these properties. My interest 
in these assets is strictly as a passive co-owner; all management 
decisions are made independently by the firm to ensure that no conflict 
arises with my public duties.
 4. Describe any business relationship, dealing, or financial 
transaction which you have had during the last ten years, whether for 
yourself, on behalf of a client, or acting as an agent, that could in 
any way constitute or result in a possible conflict of interest in the 
position to which you have been nominated. Explain how you will resolve 
each potential conflict of interest.
 I was employed by Serco, Inc. from 2016 until April 30, 2026. Serco 
provides services to the U.S. Federal Government, including the 
Department of Homeland Security; however, to my knowledge, Serco bas 
never provided services to the Transportation Security Administration. 
My employment with Serco has concluded, and I have no remaining 
financial ties to the company, as all stock options have been sold.
 In strict compliance with 5 C.F.R. Sec. 2635.502, I will recuse 
myself for the duration of my appointment from any particular matter--
including, but not limited to, procurement, contractual decisions, or 
policy execution--in which Serco, Inc., Xerox, Inc., or Conduent, Inc. 
is a party or represents a party. This approach will ensure that no 
possible conflict of interest arises in connection with my public 
duties.
 5. Identify any other potential conflicts of interest and explain 
how you will resolve each potential conflict of interest.
 Consistent with my Ethics Agreement, I will divest all individual 
company stock holdings and transition to non-industry exchange-traded 
funds (ETFs) as soon as practicable, but no later than 90 days after my 
confirmation. This action will ensure that I avoid any potential 
conflicts of interest in connection with my duties at the 
Transportation Security Administration.
 6. Describe any activity during the past ten years, including the 
names of clients represented, in which you have been engaged for the 
purpose of directly or indirectly influencing the passage, defeat, or 
modification of any legislation or affecting the administration and 
execution of law or public policy. None.
 c. legal matters
 1. Have you ever been disciplined or cited for a breach of ethics, 
professional misconduct, or retaliation by, or been the subject of a 
complaint to, any court, administrative agency, the Office of Special 
Counsel, an Inspector General, professional association, disciplinary 
committee, or other professional group? No.
 If yes: N/A

 a. Provide the name of the court, agency, association, committee, or 
 group;

 b. Provide the date the citation, disciplinary action, complaint, or 
 personnel action was issued or initiated;

 c. Describe the citation, disciplinary action, complaint, or 
 personnel action;

 d. Provide the results of the citation, disciplinary action, 
 complaint, or personnel action.

 2. Have you ever been investigated, arrested, charged, or held by 
any Federal, State, or other law enforcement authority of any Federal, 
State, county, municipal, or foreign government entity, other than for 
a minor traffic offense? If so, please explain. No.
 3. Have you or any business or nonprofit of which you are or were 
an officer ever been involved as a party in an administrative agency 
proceeding, criminal proceeding, or civil litigation? If so, please 
explain.
 Both Valley Forge Military Academy and the Virginia Health Benefit 
Exchange were parties to civil litigation during my tenure on their 
Board of Directors and Advisory Committee, respectively. To my 
knowledge, I was never cited in those proceedings nor involved in the 
legal documents. I intend to resign from both organizations.
 4. Have you ever been convicted (including pleas of guilty or nolo 
contendere) of any criminal violation other than a minor traffic 
offense? If so, please explain. No.
 5. Have you ever been accused, formally or informally, of sexual 
assault, sexual harassment, or discrimination on the basis of sex, 
race, religion, or any other basis? If so, please explain. No.
 6. Please advise the Committee of any additional information, 
favorable or unfavorable, which you feel should be disclosed in 
connection with your nomination. None.
 d. relationship with committee
 1. Will you ensure that your department/agency/commission/
corporation complies with deadlines for information set by 
congressional committees, and that your department/agency/commission/
corporation endeavors to timely comply with requests for information 
from individual Members of Congress, including requests from members in 
the minority? Yes.
 2. Will you ensure that your department/agency/commission/
corporation does whatever it can to protect congressional witnesses and 
whistleblowers from reprisal for their testimony and disclosures? Yes.
 3. Will you cooperate in providing the Committee with requested 
witnesses, including technical experts and career employees, with 
firsthand knowledge of matters of interest to the Committee? Yes.
 4. Are you willing to appear and testify before any duly 
constituted committee of the Congress on such occasions as you may be 
reasonably requested to do so? Yes.

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 The Chairman. Thank you. Over the last year, tens of 
thousands of TSA employees had to work without pay for 
approximately 90 days between two Democrat-caused shutdowns. 
From February to May of this year, over 1,100 TSA employees 
have left the Agency. As we inch closer to yet another 
government funding fight, we are facing the very likely 
prospect of yet a third Democrat-imposed shutdown. A government 
shutdown would be profoundly disruptive for the traveling 
public. How would another shutdown affect TSA's workforce?
 Mr. Cummins. Thank you, Chairman. I've talked to dozens of 
TSOs at a number of airports over the last 3 weeks, as a senior 
advisor, just trying to understand what they went through 
during the shutdown and what they're going through today, and I 
can confirm what you said. Their morale is very, very low right 
now. They're fearing--feeling very underappreciated by the 
American public and specifically by this government. They fear 
the prospect--they watch the news. They hear about the prospect 
of another shutdown. And as you mentioned, we've had 
significant attrition because of the last two shutdowns, and 
not just entry-level workers, but folks that have been with the 
Agency for 20 years or more.
 And so, I am deeply concerned that, in the face of another 
shutdown, we're going to start seeing attrition pick up, and so 
we need to be prepared as an Agency and develop contingency 
plans on how we're going to deal with that eventuality if it 
happens. But please, I ask this committee to do whatever you 
can to keep that from happening and to ensure our workers are 
paid.
 The Chairman. The American people should be fully aware 
that Federal Government funding expires on September 30. I 
believe the odds are 100 percent that the Democrats intend to 
force yet another shutdown starting on October 1 of this year. 
Minority Leader Schumer is not an individual known for his 
creativity or versatility. One year ago, in the month before 
Election Day, Democrats forced a shutdown, and they believe 
they benefited politically by shutting the government down. I 
think that tactic was profoundly cynical. It abused TSA agents 
and officers, it damaged the Agency profoundly, it increased 
the risks of a terror attack, and it imposed enormous pain on 
the flying public, resulting in millions of passengers having 
their flights delayed or canceled. I don't believe that should 
ever happen again.
 I understand our Democrat colleagues hope they win the 
election in November, but imposing that kind of unnecessary 
suffering is not an appropriate step to try to win an election. 
I've introduced legislation called the Keep America Flying Act, 
bipartisan legislation that says essential employees, like TSA 
personnel, and air traffic controllers, and those Federal 
employees who are necessary to keep our planes flying in the 
air safely, will be paid regardless of the partisan games that 
either party plays. We should never again have TSA agents not 
getting their paycheck. We should never again have air traffic 
controllers not getting their paycheck. We should never again 
have the flying public put in danger for the partisan political 
objectives of the Democrats. Do you support the Keep America 
Flying Act?
 Mr. Cummins. Thank you, Chairman Cruz. We support anything 
Congress can do, and we champion your efforts specifically, Mr. 
Chairman, to keep our workers paid. If I had Lucy sitting next 
to me today, she would look all of you in the eyes and say 
please don't do it again. Please don't do it again. And so, I 
would like to just lay out that I can't say what'll happen if 
there's an extended shutdown again. But what I can say, what's 
likely to happen is we're going to have significant attrition, 
we're going to have mass call-outs again, and we're going to 
have a situation, particularly in the smaller airports where a 
handful of people don't show, we're going to have to shut down 
the entire checkpoint, which basically means shutting down the 
entire airport.
 It's one of the reasons that we are aggressively pushing 
the expansion of the SPP program because these airports need 
resilience, and having private contractors pay the TSOs during 
a shutdown provides resilience. And so, thank you for your 
efforts, Chairman, and we will support you in any way we 
possibly can.
 The Chairman. Thank you. Ranking Member Kim.
 Senator Kim. Yes, thank you. I mean, look, you know, I was, 
before I came into Congress, a career Federal Government 
worker. I worked through multiple shutdowns, did not get my 
paycheck, and it was frustrating. It was. And I--look, I--you 
know, what you said about Lucy, you want her to be able to do 
her job, right, and we'll find ways, and I hope that we can 
make sure--we ensure that because, again, they're working hard. 
They should be able to get paid. What I also want to make sure 
is that they can do their job, right? Lucy wants to go and be 
able to do the job that she signed up for. Is that right?
 Well, I guess I'd ask you, if you were directed to pull TSA 
screeners from American airports in cities deemed sanctuary 
cities, would you follow those orders?
 Mr. Cummins. So, we in TSA are one component of many 
components within DHS, and we are one DHS. We do not operate in 
silos. So, we will support the mission of the larger Agency, 
which is to protect the homeland.
 Senator Kim. What would happen to our airports if you 
pulled TSA screeners away from their jobs?
 Mr. Cummins. Well, I can't speak to the hypothetical of 
that happening, but if----
 Senator Kim. It's not a hypothetical.
 Mr. Cummins. But I would say that----
 Senator Kim. My state was threatened specifically about 
this in New Jersey.
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, I would----
 Senator Kim. We ran lots of models about what would happen. 
You know what would happen. You know, the airports would shut 
down. We would have a tremendous amount of damage to commerce 
and industry, our economy. The flying public would not be able 
to go about. You know, you just talked about wanting Lucy to be 
able to do her job. I'm in agreement on that. You think it's OK 
for her to now be pulled from doing the TSA screening that she 
signed up for and have to do some other job with--alongside ICE 
or some other aspect of DHS? You think that's fair?
 Mr. Cummins. Well, we have--we have plenty of opportunities 
because we are hiring like mad because of the attrition that I 
said. If this hypothetical were to happen, that certain 
airports were going to be closed temporarily until legal 
immigration can be enforced around those cities, I can't speak 
whether that would happen. But if that were a direction that 
was provided by this administration, we would ensure that those 
TSOs at those airports were positioned to other airports 
nearby. We do this constantly. We're constantly shifting 
officers around to help supplement when we have shifts in 
demand.
 Senator Kim. But you would agree that, much like what we 
experienced during the shutdown, that this would be disruptive 
to the flying public and cause economic harm to our country?
 Mr. Cummins. What I would say is that we are in a--in a 
very politicized environment. We all need to recognize that 
aviation security is impaired oftentimes by politics, and----
 Senator Kim. I just want to say, you know, the public will 
be furious about this if this happened, in the same way they 
were furious during the shutdown, and this is something we 
should try to avoid. I also just wanted to point out, you know, 
again, talking about Lucy wanting to be able to do her job, 
well, look, there are lots of people like Lucy that want to do 
their jobs, and there are lots of people that, like Lucy, at 
TSA, that want to make sure that they can have collective 
bargaining rights. I wanted to ask you, do you agree about 
codifying and supporting collective bargaining rights for TSA 
workers?
 Mr. Cummins. So, the collective bargaining agreement that 
we have in place with TSA today, which we are abiding by today 
because we are following the court order that's in place, it 
actually has a--an impact on our flexibility to scale with 
variable demand. As we all know, in every airport on any given 
day, you can have a spike in the number of travelers, and it's 
incumbent upon us to shift our supply to meet that variable 
demand. The CBA rules, as they're currently written, 
dramatically hinder that ability. You have to bid on your shift 
months in advance. It's very difficult to trade shifts. It's 
seniority based.
 I have worked in the private sector with 2,000 employees 
under me that were under CBAs of the 5,000 that reported into 
me, and you learn to work with it, but it hinders your ability 
to deliver a mission, and in this case, our mission is national 
security. And national security should never be hindered by 
work rules that limit our ability to flex and be agile--and as 
agile as the threats we encounter.
 Senator Kim. I think these workers--you know, they respect 
and they want to do their jobs, and I think that any agreement 
should be made. And so, if there are ways in which we can 
ensure that mission success is the paramount goal, of course, 
these workers want to do so, but they want to have a say in it, 
you know. And if you need more resources, more personnel, then 
come to Congress because that's what we're trying to do. We 
don't actually want the Trump administration budget to come 
through and cut thousands of workers from TSA.
 But look, if you're going to evoke Lucy's name, the names 
of these TSOs, listen to them. Respect them. Give them a say in 
their own work. Don't just think it's something that you, from 
the top down, can just order them to go leave their jobs, leave 
their posts in sanctuary cities or elsewhere. So, I just urge 
you, you know, if you're going to stand up and say that you 
care about the workers, care about it in total, but give them 
the rights, give them the respect they deserve. With that, I 
yield back.
 The Chairman. Senator Moreno.

 STATEMENT OF HON. BERNIE MORENO, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM OHIO

 Senator Moreno. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Cummins, you 
were an executive of a company called Serco. Is that correct?
 Mr. Cummins. That's correct.
 Senator Moreno. And how long were you there?
 Mr. Cummins. I was there nine years.
 Senator Moreno. Nine years? How many total employees did 
you have, more or less?
 Mr. Cummins. Under me, 5,000.
 Senator Moreno. Five thousand. How many of your--how many 
of those employees did you not pay who came to work?
 Mr. Cummins. We never didn't pay them, and in fact, we 
had----
 Senator Moreno. Wait, wait. You mean every time they came 
to work, you paid them?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes. It's funny how the private sector works, 
and, in fact, I will say----
 Senator Moreno. What would've happened if you didn't pay 
them?
 Mr. Cummins. They would've left.
 Senator Moreno. Well, worse, you'd probably get into a wage 
and hour lawsuit----
 Mr. Cummins. That's correct.
 Senator Moreno.--that would probably be filed by my 
Democrat colleagues.
 Mr. Cummins. That's correct.
 Senator Moreno. And yet they had no problem--no problem--
they didn't even wince at the idea of not paying 260,000 
members of the Department of Homeland Security for 43 days. It 
didn't even bother them. In fact, when Senator Kennedy and I 
went on the floor to put a bill that said that we should have 
our paychecks withheld while government employees weren't 
getting paid, they objected to that. Think about what would've 
happened in your case at Serco. If the executives were being 
paid and you paid none of your employees, what would have 
happened?
 So, let me ask you a little bit of a different question. 
When you talk to the people who work at TSA, could you rank for 
me what they care about? So, let's say a really nice cafeteria 
where they can get a wonderful snack, but that is one thing 
that you can give them, including beautiful, brand-new 
microwaves, new uniforms that are sparkling, a collective 
bargaining agreement that brings tears to their eyes, it's so 
good for them, or a paycheck. Which one would be the top thing 
that they would want?
 Mr. Cummins. Well, no one should ever work without a 
paycheck.
 Senator Moreno. So, you think a paycheck would--paycheck 
trumps anything else?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes.
 Senator Moreno. OK. Do you--do you think on a--it's 
decently grotesque that politicians use employees as political 
pawns and political battles to get political power?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes.
 Senator Moreno. Do you think that's grotesque?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, and I----
 Senator Moreno. Do you think it--do you think it's 
absolutely, not only gross politically, it's actually immoral 
because I went during a government shutdown to Cleveland 
Airport. I talked to government employees who told me--this is 
a grown man my age, who told me with tears in his eyes that he 
had to tell his 14-year-old daughter he couldn't pay for her 
dance recital because he wasn't getting a paycheck and how 
emasculating that was, and how he had to explain to his 
daughter he showed up for work, followed the rules, did what he 
was told, worked there for 20-plus years, and because of 
politicians here in Washington, D.C., he was not getting a 
paycheck. How does that make employees feel?
 Mr. Cummins. I was told stories of 20-year veterans having 
to go to food banks to get food. How demoralizing, how 
humiliating is that, right?
 Senator Moreno. And you had senators here getting their 
paycheck, going to fancy restaurants paid for by lobby--steak 
dinners paid for by lobbyists, yucking it up, drinking 
expensive wine while your employees--future employees at TSA 
had to go to food banks. That's the state of politics in 
America today where we with one breath hear this idea of let's 
stand up for workers, let's give them all these rights, and yet 
have no problem not giving them a paycheck.
 The Democrat Party that once cared about workers is dead. 
That party no longer exists. It was proven not once, not twice, 
but soon to be a third time because what you haven't heard from 
any of my Democrat colleagues and you won't hear from my 
Democrat colleagues is that they absolutely will not allow the 
government to shut down. You will not hear from one Democrat 
member of this committee or anywhere in the U.S. Senate where 
they will out--with their voice say, ``We will not under any 
circumstance shut down the U.S. Government.'' You will not hear 
them say that because it is their political ploy where they 
think that a government shutdown helps them because they have 
CNN anchors that blame the shutdown on Republicans saying, 
``Well, you guys are in charge.'' In fact, in this committee, 
we had a member of this committee say, ``You guys are in 
charge. The shutdown's not our fault.''
 Of course, they know that the process here requires 60 
votes, which means they know that we need Democrat votes in 
order to keep the government open. They could today, right now 
say, ``We will support a continuing resolution so we keep the 
budget the same through and past the election cycle to prevent 
a government shutdown.'' They won't say that because they know 
that they prefer the political tool.
 Godspeed to you as you become our nominee--our TSA 
administrator, pass this nomination process. But I worry about 
you and your fellow employees, who are going to go through this 
political torture inflicted upon you by Democrats because they 
care more about political power than they care about American 
citizens. They care more about illegals and protecting those 
cities that keep and harbor these illegals than the Americans 
who wake up every day to protect us. So, God bless you as you 
become our TSA administrator. I know you'll do an amazing job, 
and just know that here, we will fight like heck to make 
certain that Democrats don't do again what they've done twice 
already this year.
 The Chairman. Well said, Senator Moreno, and I will point 
out that Senate Democrats are more than welcome to co-sponsor 
and to support the Keep America Flying Act. It is bipartisan 
right now. Two Democrats, Senator Gallego and Senator Warnock, 
have co-sponsored it already, but I would invite Senator Kim 
and every member of this committee to co-sponsor it as well. 
I'd like to see the Senate pass it so we can tell our TSA 
agents never again, regardless of which party is in the 
majority, never again will you have your paychecks held because 
of a shutdown, and I would invite every Democrat and every 
Republican to co-sponsor that. Senator Blackburn.

 STATEMENT OF HON. MARSHA BLACKBURN, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE

 Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and adding to 
those comments, my concern is that the Democrat side of the 
dais is completely empty because they don't want to have to 
admit they did this shutdown, they used TSA employees as pawns 
through this process, and they are not willing to take that off 
the table, which I think is absolutely horrific. They continue 
to use TSA as pawns because they feel like this inflicts pain 
and that the public can see it, and it is absolutely so 
disgusting.
 Congratulations to you on your nomination, and I do want to 
talk with you a little bit about some of the TSA reforms that 
are taking place. I know that the President and Secretary Duffy 
are pushing to move us toward a golden age of travel where it's 
frictionless. The check-in is easy. The movement to the gate, 
the scheduling of the planes, we're looking forward to that. 
So, touch on what you look forward to doing as we look at these 
reforms?
 Mr. Cummins. Thank you, Senator, and I want to affirm what 
you said about our workers and keeping them paid. I want to be 
clear that the 55,000 TSOs are the lifeblood of the Agency, and 
there's talk about cyberattacks, talking about privatization. 
They are the center of gravity, and we're always going to 
protect them.
 Senator Blackburn. Great.
 Mr. Cummins. As it relates to technology--thank you for 
that question--we have only just begun the modernization of the 
security checkpoints. But I'm really excited about the 
opportunity to roll out some of these new 3D baggage scanners 
and roll out these new body scanners that don't require to lift 
your arms in the air that are in both cases much, much more 
secure and efficient than the legacy technology. We're 
exploring other technologies around e-gates. We're exploring 
technologies that may allow us to bring water bottles again 
through checkpoints, and so I'm encouraged. I've been able to 
go to the Technology Center over by National Airport and see 
the process that we're going through to certify this technology 
to make sure it is indeed secure.
 One thing I want to point out as you talked about the 
friction of travel, we believe that the pain point isn't 
necessarily the fact that you have to wait in line at security. 
We all have to wait in line for various things. When we go to 
the grocery store, we expect that we're going to have to wait 
in line. The pain point is you don't know how long the wait's 
going to be. And so, we would like to roll out technology 
that'll be able to predict what the wait times will be when you 
arrive at the airport in two hours----
 Senator Blackburn. Yes.
 Mr. Cummins.--and be able to push that information out to 
you maybe via your boarding pass, or a Google Maps or Apple 
Maps, or via Uber. And so, we would like to kind of take the 
surprise out of travel. We all hate when we're rounding the 
check-in line and we see, oh my goodness, look how long the 
standard line is or how long the pre-check line is. That 
surprise is painful because you're not sure if you can still 
make your flight. There's all that anxiety.
 Senator Blackburn. I want to ask you about that because 
McGhee Tyson Airport in Tennessee has grown 18.6 percent. That 
was the growth in 2024. Flight service, the growth in 
Tennessee, all of our airports are growing. They're trying to 
extend runways. As they're extending runways, what you're 
seeing is an extension of these wait times----
 Mr. Cummins. Yes.
 Senator Blackburn.--at the airport. And we secured a grant 
for McGhee Tyson to expand their TSA security checkpoint, but 
we're getting calls regularly that at the Knoxville Airport, 
the wait times to get through TSA are two hours----
 Mr. Cummins. Hmm.
 Senator Blackburn.--and we've increased some flights with 
Allegiant and Southwest there. And there has been--well, part--
we've got two of the lines that are down because the scanners 
are broken, things of that nature. And we need your attention 
on this issue in order to make certain, first of all, we've got 
technicians doing the repairs, but second, we're looking at 
these travel loads, and we are going to be properly staffed in 
order to meet that load. Will you commit to working with us on 
that?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes. If confirmed, I absolutely will commit to 
working with you, and I'd love to visit those airports and look 
firsthand at the challenges.
 Senator Blackburn. Come on down. Greatest state in the USA. 
We'd love to have you.
 Mr. Cummins. Thank you.
 Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
 The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Fischer.

 STATEMENT OF HON. DEB FISCHER, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM NEBRASKA

 Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Cummins, 
thank you for your willingness to serve in this position. It's 
a--it's a difficult one, and it has so much public attention to 
it, so I have hopes that you're going to be able to solve some 
of these issues that we've been faced with.
 One of our many airports in Nebraska, the North Platte 
Regional Airport, is set to open a new terminal building later 
this summer. And though they have run into some challenges at 
times with TSA, they have stated that the local TSA office in 
Omaha has been really great to work with, and they appreciate 
their continued cooperation. As they make this transition to 
the new terminal, I would like to see that continued 
cooperation between North Platte and TSA. So, if you are 
confirmed, will you commit to working with me to ensure that 
there is a successful transition of TSA's operation to that new 
terminal?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, I will.
 Senator Fischer. Thank you. As you know, TSA is tasked with 
not only addressing security in our airports, but surface 
transportation threats as well. Historically, TSA has spent 
approximately 2 to 3 percent of its budget on surface 
transportation programs. For example, TSA has issued multiple 
security directives on pipeline cybersecurity following the 
2021 ransomware attack on Colonial Pipeline, including a 
directive that requires performance-based cybersecurity 
measures for pipeline operators. How do you believe that the 
Agency can better use its resources to address ongoing threats 
to our surface transportation systems?
 Mr. Cummins. Thank you, Senator Fischer. As you know, I've 
spent many years working on highway safety. And whether it's 
commercial trucking safety, whether it's motorist assist for 
passengers--vehicles, rather--that that break down helping the 
passengers and maybe filling up fuel, changing tires, all of 
that it's--I've been working with for many years now. And 
you're right to point out that the TSA's mission has probably 
been too focused just on aviation, maybe at the expense of 
other modes of transportation as well as pipelines.
 Senator Fischer. Mm-hmm.
 Mr. Cummins. And so, I want to work closely with this 
committee as we think about how we can work with industry and 
this committee to better put a--in place a regulatory 
environment that makes our highways, for example, more safe and 
secure. There are new emerging threats. We're seeing what 
drones, for example, can do on highways in Ukraine, and so we 
need to always be vigilant staying ahead of these emerging 
threats.
 Senator Fischer. Do you support the continued use of that 
performance-based approach to cybersecurity oversight going 
forward? Are you aware----
 Mr. Cummins. I do.
 Senator Fischer.--of how that works?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, and I--and I'm aware that we've been a 
bit negligent in putting in place the regulatory environment 
around cybersecurity, particularly for the pipelines since 
the--since it was first issued after the Colonial cyberattack. 
And so, I do commit to this committee that I want to see that 
through to resolution very quickly.
 Senator Fischer. You had mentioned drones, and we saw a few 
weeks ago that JetBlue Airways pilot, he reported striking a 
drone while the aircraft was on approach to the JFK airport. 
Thankfully, the plane landed safely, and the incident is still 
under investigation. According to the FAA, it receives more 
than 100 reports each month of drone sightings near airports. 
So, while the TSA is working with the FAA to undertake new 
efforts to address these concerns, what additional steps do you 
think the Agency can undertake to ensure the safety of the 
flying public?
 Mr. Cummins. I was surprised to learn these last 3 weeks 
that the Federal air marshals of the TSA have been working for 
years on counter-UAS or counter-drone interception. In fact, 
they have been working the FIFA World Cup events and helped 
intercept, so far, 600 drones in collaboration with the FBI, 
and Secret Service, and local law enforcement. So, we already 
have this capability, but to your point, it needs to be 
invested in, and it needs to cover the totality of all of our 
airports.
 And so, we have been in active discussions--DHS has been 
with OMB and the White House--to see about how we can utilize 
some of the funding to increase our C-UAS efforts, and we 
really think now it's become a core part of our mission at TSA. 
It's not just about screening and making sure people don't get 
on planes with bad intentions, but also we have to be careful 
not just about bad actors with drones, but also hobbyists that 
are negligent and do something to do what I think happened with 
this JetBlue incident in Newark.
 Senator Fischer. In your comments, you mentioned your 
excitement in looking at the next-generation screening 
equipment and the possibilities that exist there and better 
detection, moving the public through this faster. How would you 
attempt to not only accelerate that screening modernization, 
but positions TSA to better equip--be better equipped to deploy 
those new technologies?
 Mr. Cummins. Well, we're thankful to this Congress for 
funding our Fiscal Year 2026 capital budget which give--gives 
us a big boost that we haven't had for many years, and we're 
looking forward to the prospect of that continuing Fiscal Year 
2027 as well. We really do have the opportunity to put in this 
technology, and, to be clear, this is mostly about improved 
security, and the good thing is, with this new technology, 
you'll also get improved throughput. The bags go through 
quicker, the people go through quicker, and our checkpoints 
become more secure, and the travelers, of course, are delighted 
by that prospect as well. So, I look forward to working with 
this committee to demonstrate some of this new technology to 
you all and so you can see with your own eyes the benefits from 
it.
 Senator Fischer. I recently had a tour of the construction 
that's going on at the Omaha Airport. They're doing a major 
build and remodel and got behind the scenes with the new 
baggage system there. It is really something. Hopefully, we can 
get you to an airport in Nebraska and be able to see some of 
this.
 Mr. Cummins. I look forward to it.
 Senator Fischer. Great. Thank you.
 Mr. Cummins. Thank you, Senator.
 The Chairman. Thank you, and Senator Peters has agreed to 
let Senator Hickenlooper go ahead of him, so Senator 
Hickenlooper.

 STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN HICKENLOOPER, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM COLORADO

 Senator Hickenlooper. Thank you, Senator Peters. Thank you, 
Mr. Chair, appreciate that, and thank you, Mr. Cummins, for 
being here and taking on this challenge.
 I wanted to go back over--I was--didn't quite to hear 
everything, and ask you a little question about the issues on 
sanctuary cities. Before that, how many--how many drones did 
you say you intercepted during FIFA?
 Mr. Cummins. It was a collaborative effort, but 600 drones 
have been intercepted so far.
 Senator Hickenlooper. That's remarkable. And how many of 
those were, like, news gathering, how many were amateurs 
screwing around, or how many potentially malevolent?
 Mr. Cummins. I can't speak to the percentage that might be 
potentially malevolent. I do know there were arrests that were 
made, but I would say the vast majority were maybe 
Instagrammers and folks that wanted to get a view of what was 
happening in the stadiums.
 Senator Hickenlooper. Right, but still dangerous, 
obviously----
 Mr. Cummins. Absolutely dangerous.
 Senator Hickenlooper.--as you clearly point out. And you've 
all--I'm not sure I quite understood your answer that, you 
know, when Secretary Mullen told Sean Hannity that the 
Department of Homeland Security was--I think the phrase used 
was drawing up plans to stop processing international travelers 
and cargo at airports, and remove Customs officers from 
international airports in so-called sanctuary cities. Have you 
discussed these plans with Secretary Mullen? Have you talked to 
the--to Commissioner Scott about this?
 Mr. Cummins. I have not.
 Senator Hickenlooper. And I'm sure you're aware that 
there's no accepted definition of what a sanctuary city is. 
It's hotly debated by those cities and various cities about 
what it--which definition there is. I would argue that, you 
know, our air traffic system, both in terms of, you know, 
tourism and casual travelers, but also the business, the cargo, 
that is a network that's very interdependent. And I think 
diminishing in any way the services that one city gets compared 
to another city would actually affect the whole. Do you 
understand what I'm saying?
 Mr. Cummins. I do.
 Senator Hickenlooper. And you--would you agree to that?
 Mr. Cummins. Well, I would say that if we do reach the 
point where we're going to partially or completely reduce 
services at sanctuary city airports, I look forward to coming 
and meeting with this committee and explain the ramifications 
of that. I understand it can be significant, but as far as I 
know, there are no near-term plans to do that. I've not been 
informed or read in on any plans to do that by Secretary 
Mullen.
 Senator Hickenlooper. OK. So, you would--definitely you 
commit to coming here and making sure that we all agree on what 
the definition is and what it is we would be sanctioning?
 Mr. Cummins. I agree to come back and inform this committee 
what we plan to do.
 Senator Hickenlooper. Right. Also, in the Fiscal Year 2027 
budget request, there is an expansion of the Screening 
Partnership Program, which, you know, allows airports to 
privatize screeners. I don't know how many you have, 4,000 or 
4,500 positions. Would these private screeners provide their 
employees with comparable benefits, comparable pay?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes. In fact, the pay--I was at an SPP airport 
last week in Kansas City Airport, and they are actually paying 
their entry-level TSOs higher than we are paying them as 
Federal employees.
 Senator Hickenlooper. Great.
 Mr. Cummins. And from a benefits standpoint, from what I--
I've seen, it's very comparable. Obviously, I come from the 
private sector. I've had air traffic controllers, hundreds of 
them, underneath me. They weren't paid as much as Federal air 
traffic controllers, but very good benefits, and they stayed 
with us, in some cases, for 20, 25 years. They liked the 
flexibility of working in the private sector. We can move them 
around to different airports. And so, I guess I just want you 
to know that we're not--as we expand the SPP program, which we 
fully intend to do, the existing employees have the right of 
first refusal to take those jobs, and in our experience, all of 
them take the jobs and they stay there.
 Senator Hickenlooper. So, the real difference, though, is 
that they don't--they give up their collective bargaining. I 
mean, that's the question long term, and I think there are a 
lot of examples out there, whether it's auto workers or 
wherever, that over a long term, collective bargaining allows 
workers, the people actually doing the work, to be more fairly 
compensated or be compensated at a higher level.
 Mr. Cummins. I understand how unionization works. I am not 
anti-union. As I mentioned, I've had union workers under me for 
many years, but I will say, as it relates to this particular 
CBA, I don't think there's any material compensation language 
or difference than in the SPP airports. It's all around bidding 
on shifts, trading shifts, and the like.
 Senator Hickenlooper. Right.
 Mr. Cummins. So, I don't--I disagree with the premise that 
they will be paid less. I do----
 Senator Hickenlooper. You're saying--but we're talking 
about long term. I understand now that the wage--this often 
happens. The wage is carefully gradated now so it'll match the 
existing wages, I get that, but that's--I'm talking about long 
term without--if you--if they're giving up collective 
bargaining, most people believe that, over time, that will cost 
them wages.
 Mr. Cummins. I can't speak for how the SPP wages have 
evolved over the last 25 years that they've been in place. I 
can look into that for you and get back to you on that. My 
understanding, though, is that you do not sacrifice your rights 
to a collective bargaining agreement as you work for a private 
company. I had CBA employees under me. In fact, one of the SPP 
airports, the one in San Francisco, has a CBA in place.
 Senator Hickenlooper. Right.
 Mr. Cummins. So, they don't give up the right to a CBA, but 
you're right. They may take some time and decide later if they 
want to do it or not. Our premise is that CBAs restrict our 
ability to flex with demand, which is incumbent upon us as a 
National Security Agency.
 Senator Hickenlooper. I hear that. All right. I'm out of 
time, but at some point, we'll continue the discussion. Thank 
you.
 The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Peters.

 STATEMENT OF HON. GARY PETERS, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM MICHIGAN

 Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Cummins, good 
to have you here today. Thank you for coming by the office 
earlier to talk about a number of issues.
 Sir, in January, Acting Administrator McNeill acknowledged 
TSA's information sharing with ICE during a hearing, but 
despite that testimony and ongoing requests from my Homeland 
Security staff, TSA has either been unable or unwilling to 
provide details or a briefing about what information is 
actually being shared. So, my question for you, sir, is, if 
confirmed, do I have your commitment to provide my staff with 
this information?
 Mr. Cummins. After you asked that question yesterday, I 
went back and talked to my colleagues at DHS, and we're going 
to work to get back to you at the soonest on that request.
 Senator Peters. With that information, you'll provide.
 Mr. Cummins. I----
 Senator Peters. ``Getting back'' is saying ``we can't give 
you information.'' That's the--I don't qualify that as getting 
back.
 Mr. Cummins. Right, right. That's fair. We need--we need to 
be responsive and transparent with you. I don't know the 
specifics of what was asked, but we will try to provide as much 
as we can within our bounds.
 Senator Peters. OK. Well, I appreciate working with you on 
that if confirmed. Mr. Cummins, as we also discussed in my 
office, I have long been concerned on how we balance national 
security with civil liberties when it comes to watch lists and 
screening. We certainly must protect air travel--that's first 
and foremost--but we also have to do it in a smart and an 
effective way.
 When I was Chairman of Homeland Security and Government 
Affairs, I put out a report describing the system and some of 
its challenges, including the broken redress process. It's easy 
to get on a list, it's really hard to get off of a list, and if 
you've been wrongly put on that list, you should have that 
opportunity to make that happen. Since then, however, there 
have been reports that individuals who participate in First 
Amendment protest activities, like protests, are receiving 
additional screening and sometimes losing their trusted 
traveler status because they're involved in protests, which, as 
you know, are protected by First Amendment. So, my question for 
you, sir, is if confirmed, will you commit to work with me and 
my staff to address watchlisting screening and vetting redress 
process?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes. I thank you for the question and making 
me aware of that. I didn't understand how protracted and 
difficult it could be to work with that redress system that we 
have in place, and I look forward to working with your--you and 
your committee on that.
 Senator Peters. Great. Thank you. Mr. Cummins, creating a 
seamless travel experience is certainly an objective that we 
all want to achieve, but it has also raised serious concerns 
from privacy experts and many Members of Congress about how 
Americans' biometric data will be used, shared, and stored. So, 
I want to give you a few more commitments to make and kind of 
get your sense of where we are on this. First, will you commit 
today to ensuring that Americans will be able to opt out of 
sharing their biometrics for identity verification and that 
they will not be penalized in any way for making that choice?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, that's the TSA's current policy, and it 
will be the future policy under me.
 Senator Peters. Will you commit that there will be no 
changes to the storage of biometric data without TSA first 
providing Congress with clear information about these changes 
and, more importantly, why they are actually needed?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, I do commit to do that.
 Senator Peters. Great. Will you commit that TSA will not 
use its technology to passively collect biometric information?
 Mr. Cummins. The passengers wouldn't be aware that we're 
collecting their biometric data. Is that what you mean by 
passively?
 Senator Peters. Yes. Mm-hmm.
 Mr. Cummins. Yes. This is an opt-in program, and so we want 
to make sure that Americans know when their biometric 
information is required and how they have alternatives they can 
pursue instead.
 Senator Peters. And finally, will you commit to ensuring 
that all TSA employees and contractors who use biometric 
capture and recognition technologies are properly trained to 
implement these commitments that you have just made to me?
 Mr. Cummins. Absolutely. That's very important.
 Senator Peters. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
 The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Fetterman.

 STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN FETTERMAN, 
 U.S. SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA

 Senator Fetterman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. OK. So, I think 
as--I believe I'm the last, and I'm the closing. So, I'm just--
it's going to be more just kind of statements more than, like, 
specific kind of questions.
 Now, TSA workers have missed five full paychecks in the 
last year because of our government shutdowns, and now we had 
TSA agents sleeping in their cars and donating plasma just to 
stay afloat. In Pittsburgh, the airport had to open up a food 
pantry for TSA offices and their families. And you could 
confirm or deny this, but 1,300 TSA agents quit during the 43 
shutdown last fall, and another 1,100 quit during the 70-day-6 
partial shutdown. Does that sound accurate?
 Mr. Cummins. Those figures are correct.
 Senator Fetterman. So, that's profound. What percentage of 
your workforce, roughly, the percentages of the people that 
left?
 Mr. Cummins. It was less than 10 percent, Senator 
Fetterman, but it was substantial inasmuch as we also lost a 
lot of highly tenured folks. And we are--also struggled for 
quite a while in replacing them because people just, frankly, 
didn't want to come work for an Agency that wouldn't pay them.
 Senator Fetterman. I mean, I--if you could poll the room 
here, how many people would work if you weren't paid for that? 
Any hands?
 [No response.]
 Senator Fetterman. None up for people. So, overall now, in 
Pennsylvania, we lost almost--just close to 200 TSA agents for 
that. What's the average salary for a TSA agent?
 Mr. Cummins. Approximately $65,000, sir.
 Senator Fetterman. Sixty-five thousand dollars. They 
probably have yachts, right, and vacation homes, right?
 Mr. Cummins. No. Many times, particularly the starting 
salary workers are living paycheck by paycheck.
 Senator Fetterman. Yes, exactly. Now, as a Democrat, you 
know, if--we fight for working people. So, for second times, 
you know, I became the only Democrat to refuse to join the 
party and shut down our government, and that's clearly--is it 
fair to say that, especially the TSA agents were forced to 
work, that was very difficult? Is that--is that a fair 
statement?
 Mr. Cummins. It was extraordinarily difficult, and I want 
to say how very proud I am that very few airports had call-
outs, and people were coming to work for those few months 
without pay, which is an extraordinary sacrifice for our 
country, and I'm so very proud of them.
 Senator Fetterman. Yes. I mean, I think--I think all of us, 
most of us here in the Senate, we travel every week of the 
year, and without--every time wherever I happen to be in the 
country at the airport, at least, you know, one or two TSA 
agents will appreciate, you know, that, you know, my stand on 
this, and I'm bringing up again after what this has put them 
through. Now, there's now conversations about now there might 
be another shutdown, so--and so that would have been three 
shutdowns and punishing the kinds of people that allow, you 
know, airline travel possible and now for the party that stands 
for our working people.
 Now, those shutdowns, my recollection, we didn't bring any 
changes in ICE, and we didn't bring any healthcare for those 
shutdowns. So, that proves what I've always maintained, that 
during a shutdown, the only losers are American public, and 
especially the kinds of people like the TSA agents. So, I do 
hope--I do hope that we have learned our lesson, and for when 
that third time is coming up, I will be at least that one 
Democrat that refuses to plunge these people into this kinds 
of--kinds of chaos and deprivation. OK. Thank you, Chairman.
 The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Fetterman. Mr. Cummins, I 
want to ask a couple more questions.
 The proliferation of drones presents an opportunity to 
revolutionize how goods are transported, but it also presents 
new threats. The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 directed the 
FAA to establish regulations for drones to operate beyond 
visual line of sight. The TSA, in its portion of the proposed 
rule released last year, called for security requirements on 
drones that industry claims mirror those imposed on cargo 
airlines. I'm concerned that the TSA's proposed drone framework 
is at odds with the actual drone operations it would regulate. 
Will you commit to working with industry stakeholders to fully 
understand their operations before imposing a security regime 
that may not fit the perceived threat?
 Mr. Cummins. I do commit, and I want to affirm that the 
future of package delivery is going to be with drones, and the 
TSA needs to have a regulatory environment that doesn't hinder 
that efficiency.
 The Chairman. It's also important that the use of 
technologies to mitigate drones is used responsibly so we avoid 
incidents like we saw in El Paso, Texas, earlier this year when 
the Department of War reportedly deployed a high-energy laser 
on a drone without FAA approval. Will you commit to working 
with the FAA on the deployment and use of counter-drone 
technologies?
 Mr. Cummins. Yes, I do, and we are actively working with 
them now, and to be clear, we are not using kinetic energy 
drones at this point.
 The Chairman. Mr. Cummins, my final question is required of 
all nominees. If confirmed, do you pledge to work 
collaboratively with this committee to provide thorough and 
timely responses to the Committee's requests and to appear 
before the Committee when requested?
 Mr. Cummins. I will.
 The Chairman. Thank you. Senators will have until the close 
of business on July 17 to submit questions for the record. The 
nominee will have until the close of business on July 20 to 
respond to those questions.
 And that concludes today's hearing. The Committee stands 
adjourned.
 [Whereupon, at 11:06 a.m., the Committee was adjourned.]

 A P P E N D I X

 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Roger Wicker to 
 David Cummins
 Question 1. TSA has invested heavily in next-generation screening 
technologies, including scanners and credential authentication systems.

 a. How will you ensure that regional airports, including those in 
Mississippi, are included in the deployment of these technologies, 
ensuring Mississippians have a secure and efficient passenger 
experience?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring that rural airports are 
not left behind as TSA modernizes its security technology. Decisions 
regarding technology deployment should be informed by risk, operational 
requirements, passenger volume, and the greatest security benefit. That 
means our largest airports may have different needs than smaller 
airports, but it does not mean smaller or rural airports are any less 
important.
 If confirmed, I will work to ensure TSA maintains a thoughtful 
modernization strategy that provides appropriate security capabilities 
across the entire aviation system, including rural airports, while 
engaging closely with Congress, airport operators, and local 
stakeholders to understand their unique needs.

 Question 2. While TSA is best known for aviation security, the 
agency is also responsible for securing our freight rail network, 
passenger rail systems, and pipelines.

 a. As our transportation infrastructure continues to grow and 
become more interconnected, what are your priorities for strengthening 
TSA's surface transportation mission without sacrificing efficiency?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to prioritizing the security of our 
freight rail network, passenger rail systems, and pipelines. The 
importance of these missions is not lost on me, and I will work closely 
with this committee and industry stakeholders to ensure that TSA's 
surface transportation mission is met without sacrificing efficiency.
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 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Dan Sullivan to 
 David Cummins
1. Ensuring Consistent Application of Federal Firearm Transportation
 Regulations
 Alaskans frequently travel with firearms for hunting, subsistence 
activities, sport shooting, and personal protection. Because many 
communities are accessible only by air, Alaska travelers often rely on 
commercial aviation while transporting firearms in compliance with 
Federal law.
 A recent case involving an Alaska constituent traveling through 
Spokane International Airport highlighted concerns regarding 
inconsistencies in TSA firearm screening procedures.
 He declared an unloaded firearm in a locked hard-sided case, as 
required by Federal regulations. Because the firearm case was too large 
for the airport's inline baggage screening system, TSA officers 
conducted a physical inspection and required the passenger to surrender 
the key to the firearm case so it could be opened and inspected in a 
separate area inaccessible to the passenger.
 TSA later stated that the procedure complied with agency policy due 
to the airport's layout constraints.
 This case raises questions about the consistent application of the 
Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR Sec. 1540.111(c)(2)), which 
requires that a firearm be transported in a locked container and that 
``only the passenger retains the key or combination.''
 While TSA guidance states that personnel may request a key to 
inspect a firearm container, the regulation itself emphasizes passenger 
control of the key and does not explicitly address inspections 
conducted outside the passenger's presence.
 The incident has raised concerns about whether firearm screening 
procedures are being applied consistently nationwide and whether 
travelers can expect the same treatment regardless of where they fly.

 a. If confirmed, how will you ensure that TSA firearm screening 
procedures are applied consistently across all airports and that 
Transportation Security Officers receive clear, standardized guidance 
on compliance with Federal firearm transportation regulations?
 Answer. Passengers deserve clear, consistent, and predictable 
procedures, regardless of which airport they are traveling through. TSA 
should enforce its Federal firearm screening procedures uniformly at 
airports nationwide. If confirmed, I commit to working closely with the 
Committee and your office to ensure that passengers traveling with 
firearms can more easily understand what is expected of them before 
they arrive at the airport and what the procedures they will experience 
during screening and their travel.

 b. Additionally, what steps would you take to strengthen training 
and oversight to ensure TSA personnel are implementing these policies 
uniformly nationwide?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this matter and 
ensuring all proper training and oversight.
2. Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) Program
 Mr. Cummins, I'd like to ask you about the Federal Flight Deck 
Officer program, which was created by Congress after the 9/11 attacks. 
The FFDO program allows trained commercial pilots to volunteer as a 
last line of defense and to carry a firearm in the flight deck to deter 
against air piracy, terrorism, or other threats.
 The FFDO program works in coordination with the Federal Air 
Marshals Service to provide a critical additional layer of security for 
our aviation system.
 Today, the FFDO budget is approximately $27 million, about the same 
as it was when the program was first established more than 20 years 
ago. More than 1 million FFDO missions will occur this calendar year, 
and because pilots volunteer for this program, it remains very cost 
effective (approximately $27 per FFDO mission flown).
 Currently, there is a large waitlist of more than 2,000 pilots 
seeking to join the program, but the TSA vetting and training process 
can take almost two years.
 I understand that TSA is seeking to address the backlog, and one of 
the proposals is to create a new initial training facility for the FFDO 
program at the William J. Hughes Technical Center in New Jersey, which 
would be co-located with existing Federal law enforcement facilities. 
This would improve FFDO training throughput and instructor 
availability.

 a. If confirmed as Administrator, will you support the FFDO program 
and ensure it has adequate resources to carry out its mission?
 Answer. Yes.

 b. Can you commit to working with Congress to address the FFDO 
applicant backlog, including a dedicated FFDO training facility, and to 
report back to this Committee on potential next steps?
 Answer. Yes.
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 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Cynthia Lummis to 
 David Cummins
 Question 1. Wyoming's wide-open spaces make our state a natural 
place to test and deploy beyond-visual-line-of-sight (BVLOS) drone 
operations, including rural delivery. I understand FAA is the lead 
agency for BVLOS operations, but TSA's security requirements, including 
security threat assessments and security programs, could affect whether 
these operations are workable for small and rural operators.

 a. Please describe how TSA, under your leadership, would ensure 
that any BVLOS-related security requirements are risk-based, tailored 
to the actual operation, and coordinated with FAA and rural 
stakeholders.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with industry to 
understand commercial operations when developing any regulations 
impacting this space.

 Question 2. The FY 2027 President's budget proposal would require 
smaller Category III and IV airports to transition into the Screening 
Partnership Program (SPP). Multiple Wyoming commercial service airports 
could be affected. There are concerns that a forced transition to SPP 
would not solve current staffing challenges and could increase costs in 
rural labor markets where airport employers must compete with higher-
paying industries.

 a. Please describe how TSA would determine whether transitioning a 
small or rural airport into SPP is appropriate, particularly when an 
airport does not support such a transition. In your answer, please 
address how TSA would account for local labor-market conditions, 
recruitment challenges, airport operational continuity, passenger 
experience, and total program costs.
 Answer. TSA does not determine which airports participate in SPP. 
All of the aforementioned considerations are critically important, but 
it would be for the airport to consider them and whether or not 
participating in SPP is the right choice for them. Category III and IV 
airports are particularly vulnerable to severe consequences of 
government shutdowns as just a handful of unscheduled callouts would 
likely lead to canceled flights and closed airports. Converting these 
airports to SPP goes a long way in insulating these airports from that 
risk. While the SPP program is currently optional, I support the 
President's proposal.

 Question 3. Wyoming airports cannot be left at the back of the line 
when TSA deploys new screening technology. For small and rural 
airports, modern equipment is not just about convenience; it is about 
national security, reliability, and keeping air service viable.

 a. If confirmed, what will you do to make sure rural airports like 
those in Wyoming receive timely deployment of updated screening 
equipment?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring that rural airports are 
not left behind as TSA modernizes its security technology. Decisions 
regarding technology deployment should be informed by risk, operational 
requirements, passenger volume, and the greatest security benefit. That 
means our largest airports may have different needs than smaller 
airports, but it does not mean smaller or rural airports are any less 
important.
 If confirmed, I will work to ensure TSA maintains a thoughtful 
modernization strategy that provides appropriate security capabilities 
across the entire aviation system, including rural airports, while 
engaging closely with Congress, airport operators, and local 
stakeholders to understand their unique needs.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
 David Cummins
1. Privatization of TSA Screening Workforce
 The President's 2027 budget request proposes cutting TSA personnel 
funding and directing our smallest commercial facilities (Category 3 
and 4) to privatize screening by enrolling in the Screening Partnership 
Program (SPP) and initiatives like TSA Gold Plus. The SPP was created 
as a voluntary ``opt-in'' safety program and current law does not give 
TSA the authority to mandate privatization across entire categories of 
airports.

 Question 1. Do you agree with the President's FY 2027 budget 
proposal to require all Category III and IV airports to privatize 
screening by enrolling in the Screening Partnership Program, or should 
that participation remain voluntary under current law?
 Answer. I support the FY 2027 President's Budget Request and the 
expansion of the Screening Partnership Program. Under current law, SPP 
is an opt-in program, and TSA does not have the statutory authority to 
require airport participation. If confirmed, I will administer the 
program consistent with existing law.

 Proponents of privatization argue that pushing small airports into 
SPP and TSA Gold Plus will reduce costs and improve efficiency. On the 
other hand, critics warn it could weaken accountability, lower wages 
and move us back to the lowest-bidder model that existed prior to 9/11.

 Question 2. Where do you come down on that trade-off and what 
evidence would you rely on to support your position?
 Answer. Congress established the Screening Partnership Program in 
the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, requiring SPP airports to 
meet or exceed security standards of federally staffed airports. I 
support the FY 2027 President's Budget Request and the expansion of 
SPP. Under current law, SPP remains an opt-in program, and TSA does not 
have the statutory authority to require airport participation. If 
confirmed, I will administer the program consistent with existing law.
2. TSA Security Worker's Rights to Unionize
 Under this administration, TSA screeners have seen their collective 
bargaining rights effectively gutted.
 If the President's budget proposal to largely privatize TSA's 
screeners happens, these workers would no longer be Federal employees, 
but that does not mean they would lose the right to organize.
 Most private sector workers are covered by the National Labor 
Relations Act, which guarantees the right to form unions and bargain 
collectively with their private employers.
 If TSA's screening workforce becomes privatized, many would fall 
squarely under the NLRA and retain these basic labor rights. I want to 
understand whether you support these rights and how they relate to 
TSA's core mission of safety and security.

 Question 1. Yes or No: Do you support the TSA workforce's existing 
collective bargaining agreement (CBA) to remain in place and in full 
effect?
 Answer. No, but I will abide by all court orders.

 Question 2. Yes or No: If TSA screening functions are privatized 
and performed by private contractors, do you agree that those workers 
should retain a lawful path to unionize and bargain collectively under 
Federal law?
 Answer. Aviation security is a unique zero-fail national security 
mission, which requires the ability to flex on demand. CBAs can 
restrict that ability. I will work with airports to find the best 
solution that fits their needs. Today, some SPP airports, including San 
Francisco International Airport (SFO), have collective bargaining 
agreements in place.

 Question 3. Yes or No: If airports opt in to privatization overseen 
by TSA, do you commit to NOT oppose efforts by privatized screening 
personnel to secure union representation under the NLRA?
 Answer. I will abide by the law and court orders.

 Evidence from a period when TSA expanded collective bargaining 
rights for Federal screeners showed that attrition dropped and 
retention improved, which worker advocates argue strengthened security 
by keeping experienced officers on the job.

 Question 4. If you oppose allowing a privatized screening workforce 
to unionize, what is your alternative plan to maintain morale, reduce 
turnover, and ensure a stable, highly trained workforce?
 Answer. Morale has been hurt most by the recent government 
shutdowns, the fact that TSOs were not paid, and concerns about another 
shutdown in October. As seen in recent shutdowns, SPP airports were 
more resilient and insulated from the politics of government shutdowns. 
Screeners at SPP airports were not forced to go to food banks, sell 
their blood and plasma, or get evicted from their homes. Not paying 
TSOs is a national security vulnerability.

 Under the NLRA, millions of workers in critical industries like 
manufacturing, health care, and logistics have organized unions while 
maintaining safe, high-performing operations.

 Question 5. Can you explain how a legal framework that supports 
bargaining and dispute resolution would undermine, rather than 
reinforce, TSA's mission to safeguard our transportation systems?
 Answer. TSA has a critical, unique zero-fail national security 
mission, which requires the ability to flex on demand. CBAs can 
restrict that ability. This includes pulling approximately 200 TSA 
frontline security personnel, equivalent to twenty lanes, off the 
frontlines to perform union-related functions. If confirmed, I commit 
to working with airports to find the best solution that fits their 
needs.
3. Pipeline Cybersecurity Rulemaking
 In May 2021, a cyberattack forced the Colonial Pipeline, which 
supplies the East Coast with 45 percent of its fuel, to shut down for 
six days.
 In response, TSA issued and has repeatedly renewed security 
directives to ensure critical pipeline operators complied with cyber 
security standards. In 2024, TSA proposed a rulemaking that would 
replace those security directives.

 Question 1. Do you believe that there are continued cyber security 
threats to pipelines and railroads?
 Answer. Yes.

 Question 2. If confirmed, do you commit to quickly issuing a final 
rule on ``Enhancing Surface Cyber Risk Management'' to prevent cyber-
attacks like the attack against the Colonial Pipeline?
 Answer. Cybersecurity is a critical component to transportation 
security. If confirmed, I commit to working with this Committee to 
ensure TSA is raising the cybersecurity baseline for pipeline 
infrastructure while also providing long-term regulatory certainty.
4. Authorities for President's Budget Proposal
 Under current law, airports may apply to join the Screening 
Partnership Program, and TSA may approve or deny those applications 
based on security and cost-effectiveness. The President's budget 
proposal attempts to mandate all Category III and IV airports to 
privatize screening by enrolling in this, but Congress has not 
authorized TSA to do so.

 Question 1. Do you believe TSA currently has the statutory 
authority to require entire classes of airports to privatize, as 
contemplated in the president's budget? Why or why not?
 Answer. Under current law, the Screening Partnership Program is an 
opt-in program, and TSA does not have the statutory authority to 
require airport participation. If confirmed, I will administer the 
program consistent with existing law.

 Question 2. Will you commit to implementing the Screening 
Partnership Program under existing law, unless Congress explicitly 
authorizes TSA to require airport participation?
 Answer. If confirmed, I will administer the Screening Partnership 
Program consistent with existing law.
5. Strong Compensation for TSA Workforce
 Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) have stood on the 
frontlines keeping the flying public safe and the economy moving 
through multiple shutdowns and growing air travel demand.
 Fostering healthy morale means ensuring hardworking frontline 
workers are valued through strong compensation, however, TSA is not 
covered under Title 5's General Schedule (GS) pay system. This means 
TSOs lack pay parity, merit system protections, and bargaining rights 
afforded to many other Federal employees.

 Question 1. Yes or No: Do you agree that better compensation for 
frontline TSA workers will improve the agency's ability to recruit and 
retain personnel?
 Answer. Ensuring paycheck stability and not forcing TSA employees 
to work without pay, as in the recent government shutdowns, will 
improve the agency's ability to recruit and retain personnel.

 Question 2. Yes or No: Do you commit to supporting higher wages and 
compensation for the TSA workforce at levels equal to that of many 
other Federal workers on the General Schedule?
 Answer. TSA has a critical national security mission, and the 
workforce should be paid commensurate with their Federal government 
counterparts. Ensuring paycheck stability and not forcing TSA employees 
to work without pay, as in the recent government shutdowns, is my 
primary personnel concern for the TSA workforce.

 Question 3. If you do not support equal pay for TSA with the 
General Schedule, can you explain how TSA operating with a separate pay 
system is better for morale, recruitment, and retention?
 Answer. Ensuring paycheck stability and not forcing TSA employees 
to work without pay, as in the recent government shutdowns, is my 
primary personnel concern for the TSA workforce.
6. Closing the Charter/Commuter TSA Security Loophole
 In 1995 the FAA adopted the ``One Level of Safety'' principle, 
requiring scheduled passenger flights of 10 or more seats to operate 
under Part 121, which provides the highest level of safety and is the 
framework governing the mainline and regional airlines that Americans 
rely on every day.
 Currently, a growing number of operators are providing scheduled 
commercial on-demand and commuter flights under Part 135 and Part 380, 
often using similar aircraft and departure rates, while operating from 
facilities that do not have the same level of TSA screening as 
scheduled Part 121 airline operations.
 As a result, these carriers are exploiting a regulatory loophole on 
the security side as the scale and frequency of these operations begin 
to look more like traditional commercial airline services.
 I'm concerned that as more passengers' board flights without being 
subject to the well-established TSA security standards, this gap 
undermines the safety and security of our national airspace system.

 Question 1. Yes or No: Do you acknowledge that allowing operators 
that structure service under Part 135 or Part 380 to avoid robust 
aviation security screening requirements while operating with similar 
departure rates on frequent routes creates an unacceptable disparity in 
security within the national airspace system?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into it and working with 
the Committee on it.

 Question 2. Do you agree that we should not have different TSA 
security standards for commercial passenger flights?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into it and working with 
the Committee on it.

 Question 3. Yes or No: If confirmed, will you commit to working 
with FAA and this Committee to fully close any regulatory gaps that 
permit commuter operators to expand scheduled service without 
corresponding increases in security screening, and to report back to us 
within 6 months on recommending changes?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into it and working with 
the Committee on it.
7. Serco's ICE ``Full Training'' Contracts
 You have spent most of your career in government contracting, 
including most recently as the Senior Vice President of ``Citizen 
Services'' at Serco, overseeing all non-defense contracts until April 
2026.
 Until recently, a ``Highlight'' of your division's website 
included, ``Since 1986 we have provided full training lifecycle support 
for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), training more than 
400,000 DHS students in all areas, including 71 days of performance-
based training for Special Agents working at Homeland Security 
Investigations, as well as a 17-week curriculum for new officers in 
Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO).''
 According to public, archived records, this ``Highlight'' appeared 
under the Citizen Services webpage from at least July 2019 to May 2025, 
as one of four total bullets.

 Question 1. Mr. Cummins, can you explain why the reference to that 
ICE training contract was deleted from the page describing ``Citizen 
Services,'' which you oversaw?
 Answer. I did not work on or have oversight on these contracts, and 
do not have insight into the decision to update the website, but I am 
proud of the work Serco has done over the years to support the DHS's 
training and development curriculums.

 Question 2. Was that statement accurate at the time it was 
published? If not, identify what was inaccurate and when you first 
became aware it was inaccurate.
 Answer. I did not work on or have oversight into these contracts, 
and do not have insight into the decision to update the website.

 Question 3. As Senior Vice President of Citizen Services from 2020 
to 2026, can you describe the extent of your awareness and involvement 
in the referenced work, including but not limited to approving, 
managing, or overseeing contracts with ICE?
 Answer. I did not work on or oversee these contracts.

 Question 4. Under your tenure, did Serco in fact ever have a 
contract to provide ``full training lifecycle support'' for U.S. 
Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, including but not limited to, 
curriculum development, live field and tactical instruction, academic 
classroom facilitation, physical fitness tracking, or post-training 
metrics?
 Answer. I did not work on or oversee these contracts.

 Serco appears to have multiple contracts with U.S. Immigration and 
Customs Enforcement related to ``operations and support.'' According to 
USAspending.gov, at least $13.6 million has been obligated to Serco 
from September 2016 to September 2026 for an ICE ``Enforcement Removal 
Operations Training Division (EROTD) Contract for Personnel to Support 
Training in Logistics, Curriculum Development, and Instructional 
Delivery.''

 Question 5. Mr. Cummins, as the head of all non-civilian contracts 
at Serco until April 2026, can you explain what type of training your 
company provided for EROTD under your tenure?
 Answer. I did not work on or oversee these contracts.
8. Collective Bargaining Agreements and National Security
 On December 12, 2025, TSA announced it would eliminate the 2024 
Collective Bargaining Agreement, citing then-Secretary of Homeland 
Security Noem's finding of its ``incompatibility with TSA's National 
Security Mission.'' TSA then illegally moved to dissolve the CBA 
despite a court order prohibiting it.
 In response to questions by Senator Peters after a June 17, 2026, 
hearing, you wrote ``Collective Bargaining Agreements (CBAs)'' can 
``interfere with critical national security functions.'' and that the 
``2024 CBA limits TSA's ability to rapidly flex staffing in response to 
demand or emergency.''

 Question 1. Can you explain specifically what demands or 
emergencies TSA would need ``flex staffing'' that the CBA would limit 
so as to interfere with national security?
 Answer. TSA has a critical, unique zero-fail national security 
mission. The CBA in place today impacts the agency's flexibility to 
scale on demand. The CBA requires shifts to be determined months in 
advance, making it difficult to adjust shifts based on changes in 
projected travel volume at an airport. It hinders TSA's ability to be 
agile and adjust to most efficiently deliver on its mission for the 
traveling public. The agency's national security mission should not be 
hindered by a CBA that hamstrings its ability to be flexible and agile.

 Question 2. If confirmed, will you commit to not take any action to 
weaken or eliminate the 2024 Collective Bargaining Agreement, as 
consistent with Federal court orders?
 Answer. If confirmed, I will abide by all court orders.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Amy Klobuchar to 
 David Cummins
 Question 1. Cybersecurity vulnerabilities can severely undermine 
our economy and our national security. The TSA shares responsibility in 
ensuring both the physical and cyber security of America's 
transportation systems.

 a. If confirmed, how will you bolster the TSA's cybersecurity 
readiness in the face of growing cyber threats?
 Answer. I understand the critical cybersecurity threat to the 
Homeland and our national security. If confirmed, I commit to working 
with the Committee to bolster TSA's cybersecurity readiness in the face 
of growing cyber threats. As the threat continues to evolve, it is 
imperative that the agency stays ahead of those threats.

 Question 2. While the 2026 FIFA World Cup concludes this weekend, 
the U.S. must be ready to host a number of major international sporting 
events over the next decade, including 2028 and 2034 Olympic and 
Paralympic Games and the 2031 Rugby World Cup.

 a. If confirmed, how will you work to ensure the success and 
security for host cities and attendees, while reducing delays for 
travelers across the transportation system?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee, 
interagency partners, and industry stakeholders to leverage respective 
expertise and resources to modernize transportation security to ensure 
the agency's technology keeps up with the pace of innovation to bolster 
security, streamline operations, maximize efficiencies, and improve the 
travel experience. These efforts will be critical to ensure that we are 
prepared to address the challenges associated with preparing for these 
events.

 Question 3. In your testimony, you discussed encouraging the 
adoption of technology to enhance security. Senator Blackburn and I 
have introduced the Cargo Security Innovation Act to invest in 
technology to address cargo theft.

 a. How can TSA better use technology to enhance security at 
intermodal hubs?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee to 
modernize transportation security technology to ensure TSA's air cargo 
resources and technology enable the agency to keep up with the pace of 
innovation to stay ahead of the continuously evolving threats to air 
cargo security.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Edward Markey to 
 David Cummins
1. Collective Bargaining
 a. Please answer yes or no, do you agree that under current law, as 
two Federal courts have now ruled, the TSA Administrator does not have 
the unilateral authority to terminate TSOs collective bargaining 
agreements?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to following all court orders.

 b. If confirmed, will you commit to preserving the TSA-AFGE 
collective bargaining agreement?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to following all court orders.

 c. Please answer yes or no, will you commit to preserving the TSO 
pay band structure as currently negotiated in the CBA?
 Answer. TSA has a critical, unique zero-fail national security 
mission, and the workforce should be paid commensurate with their 
Federal government counterparts. Ensuring paycheck stability and not 
forcing TSA employees to work without pay, as in the recent government 
shutdowns, is my primary personnel concern for the TSA workforce. If 
confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee to ensure the TSA 
workforce gets paid for the critical national security work they 
perform. TSA personnel should not have to work without being paid.
 While carrying out such a critical national security mission, the 
TSA workforce should not face paycheck instability and worry about 
feeding their families and paying for basic necessities. Ultimately, it 
is Congress's responsibility to ensure our workforce receives timely 
and reliable compensation for their vital national security work.
2. Facial Recognition Technology
 a. Do you agree that biometric screening technologies such as 
facial comparison technology poses risks to Americans privacy without 
proper privacy protections?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to TSA's use of biometrics and 
facial comparison technology, remaining optional, photos being deleted, 
and abiding by all privacy laws and regulations.

 b. If confirmed, will you commit to maintaining high privacy 
standards for all biometric screening technologies including facial 
comparison technology?
 Answer. Yes.

 c. The Algorithmic Justice League published a report evaluating TSA 
facial comparing technology processes and 91 airports between March 
2024--June 2025. The report found that 56 percent of individuals did 
not have visible opt out information for facial comparison and 74 
percent did not receive notice about TSA use of facial comparison 
technology. If confirmed, will you commit to auditing signage and 
verbal notice procedures at every airport using facial comparison 
technology?
 Answer. Yes.

 d. The use of facial comparison technology has raised concerns 
about differential error rates across race, gender, age, and skin 
tone--concerns documented by NIST's own facial recognition vendor 
testing. If confirmed, what specific steps will you take to audit TSA's 
facial recognition systems for demographic performance disparities, 
including false match and false non-match rates broken out by race, 
gender, and age?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into the performance of 
TSA's facial comparison technology.

 e. Will you commit to publicly disclosing the results of TSA's 
accuracy and demographic-performance testing, including false-match and 
false-nonmatch rates?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to being transparent with the 
Committee and providing all requested information, in accordance with 
all Sensitive Security Information and Classified Information 
protocols.

 f. TSA has stated that photographs captured through Credential 
Authentication Technology are not retained after identity verification. 
Will you commit that TSA will not retain, store, or use those 
photographs for any secondary purpose, including law enforcement, 
intelligence, immigration enforcement, or commercial purposes?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit that the use of Facial Comparison 
Technology will remain optional, and photos will be deleted.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Gary Peters to 
 David Cummins
 Question 1. What is your understanding of TSA's role in addressing 
Unmanned Air Systems (UAS) threats to airports and air travel in the 
U.S.? If confirmed, how do you plan to engage with the FAA and other 
relevant Federal agencies to address UAS threats?
 Answer. In my few weeks at TSA as a Senior Advisor, I was surprised 
to learn that the Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS) has been working 
for years on Counter-UAS (C-UAS) efforts. In collaboration with 
interagency, state, and local partners, over 700 drones were 
intercepted during the FIFA World Cup. If confirmed, I commit to 
working closely with the FAA and interagency partners to address UAS 
threats to protect airports nationwide.

 Question 2. During your confirmation hearing, you mentioned that 
600 drones have so far been intercepted since the start of the FIFA 
World Cup and that, while you don't know the percentage of those that 
were malevolent, arrests were made.

 a. Please detail the circumstances surrounding those arrests, what 
the individuals arrested have been charged with, and what TSA's role, 
if any, was in those cases.
 Answer. TSA defers to the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal 
Bureau of Investigations (FBI) for a response regarding specific cases, 
arrests, and charges.

 b. Please describe the role that TSA has played in supporting FIFA 
World Cup counter-UAS operations, the number of TSA personnel detailed 
to support those operations, and the number of UAS intercepted by TSA 
alone since the start of the FIFA World Cup.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the requested information to the Committee.

 Question 3. During your confirmation hearing, you testified that 
expanding the Screening Partnership Program (SPP) would not reduce 
wages or compromise benefits, and that collective bargaining agreements 
(CBAs) ``restrict our ability to flex with demand, which is incumbent 
upon us as a national security agency.'' Given that other Federal law 
enforcement agencies with a national security mission -such as Customs 
and Border Protection -operate under CBAs, please explain how these 
agreements restrict TSA's ability to ``flex with demand.''
 Answer. TSA has a unique zero-fail national security mission. The 
CBA in place today impacts the agency's flexibility to scale on demand. 
The CBA requires shifts to be determined months in advance, making it 
difficult to adjust shifts based on changes in projected travel volume 
at an airport. It hinders TSA's ability to be agile and adjust to most 
efficiently deliver on its mission for the traveling public. The 
agency's national security mission should not be hindered by a CBA that 
hamstrings its ability to be flexible and agile.

 Question 4. During your confirmation hearing, you agreed to work 
with my staff and me to address our request for information and a 
briefing regarding TSA's sharing of passenger manifests with 
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Please provide an update on 
the status of that request and indicate when my staff can expect the 
briefing to be scheduled.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with DHS and ICE to brief 
the Committee.

 Question 5. During your confirmation hearing, you agreed to work 
with my staff and me to address the watchlisting screening and vetting 
redress process.

 a. Please describe your understanding of TSA's role in the 
watchlisting screening and vetting system.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to the agency being more transparent 
and will work with the Committee to exercise its congressional 
oversight on TSA's watchlisting and vetting programs to ensure they're 
carried out in full compliance with the law.

 b. If confirmed, how do you plan to improve the redress process?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to increasing transparency, 
information sharing, and working closely with the Committee to 
improving the redress process.

 c. Do you believe that participating in First Amendment-protected 
activity should result in additional screening and the potential 
revocation of Trusted Traveler Program membership?
 Answer. No.

 d. If confirmed, will you commit to ensuring that individuals are 
not stripped of their TSA PreCheck status for engaging in First 
Amendment-protected activities?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working closely with the 
Committee on that.

 Question 6. On August 7, 2025, the FAA and the TSA jointly 
published a notice of proposed rulemaking titled ``Normalizing Unmanned 
Aircraft Systems Beyond Visual Line of Sight Operations.'' This rule 
would enable the design and operation of unmanned aircraft systems 
(UAS) at low altitudes beyond visual line of sight (BVLOS) and for 
third-party services that support these operations including UAS 
Traffic Management. Congress has repeatedly emphasized that this rule 
is of critical importance to ensuring the United States remains a 
leader in the drone industry. While the FAA's portion of the BVLOS 
final rule is currently under review at the Office of Information and 
Regulatory Affairs (OIRA), I understand that TSA has revised its 
portion of the rule from what was in the NPRM and will be publishing it 
separately.

 a. If confirmed, and in your current role as a senior advisor at 
TSA, do you commit to engage and collaborate meaningfully with the U.S. 
drone industry and consider its input on the final BVLOS rule before 
TSA sends its portion of the final BVLOS rule to OIRA?
 Answer. Yes.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Tammy Duckworth to 
 David Cummins
 Question 1. Bottles and Breastfeeding Equipment Screening 
Enhancement Act Implementation The Bottles and Breastfeeding Equipment 
Screening Enhancement Act (BABES) Enhancement Act was signed into law 
in December 2025, requiring TSA to issue guidance promoting the 
hygienic handling of any breast milk, baby formula or other infant 
nutrition products. The guidance must be updated every five years. TSA 
has updated its standard operating procedures (SOPs) for agents, 
requiring them to change their gloves before handling/screening breast 
milk and infant formula. TSA has also updated its public-facing website 
to inform travelers that, should they choose not to have their breast 
milk screened, other enhanced screening methods may be necessary. 
However, the primary issue continues to be that Transportation Security 
Officers (TSOs) need adequate and regular training to faithfully carry 
out the law.

 a. Do you agree that robust and repeated training on TSA's BABES 
Act policy is critically important and that simply updating written 
policy is insufficient?
 Answer. Yes.

 b. Have all TSOs been trained on the policies and procedures that 
were updated after the BABES Enhancement Act became law?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this. It is my 
understanding that earlier this year TSA's SOPs were modified in 
accordance with the BABES Act and that the screening workforce has been 
briefed on the SOP changes.

 c. Will you commit to ensuring all new TSOs are trained--and all 
agents are regularly retrained--on the proper handling of breast milk 
and other critically important items?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring all TSOs are trained in 
the proper handling of breastmilk and other critically important items.

 d. How often will TSOs be trained on the updated policies and 
procedures stemming from the BABES Act?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee and 
your office to ensure TSA has the necessary resources to ensure TSOs 
will be trained in a timely and routine manner on updated policies and 
procedures stemming from the BABES Act.

 e. How is TSA collecting performance management data to assess 
whether TSOs are properly complying with updated TSA guidance; 
continually monitor feedback from nursing mothers regarding TSO 
performance in hygienically handling breast milk, baby formula or other 
infant nutrition products during screening, and equally important, TSO 
conduct in treating all traveling nursing mothers with dignity and 
respect.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office with the requested information. It is my 
understanding that TSA has been working closely with the U.S. 
Breastfeeding Committee on implementation of the BABES Act.

 f. What enforcement actions will TSA take if a TSO does not 
properly handle breast milk, infant formula and other critically 
important items?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring that TSOs not following 
the proper procedures are held accountable.
2. TSA Cares
 In 2024, TSA Cares served 69,000 travelers, only 0.008 percent of 
the 904 million passengers screened by TSA that year, and fewer than 
0.3 percent of travelers with disabilities. Mr. Cummins, during our 
meeting we discussed the importance of increasing marketing and support 
of the TSA Cares program.

 a. What is the current annual budget for TSA Cares?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working closely with the 
Committee and your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs to 
increase marketing and support of the TSA Cares program. Furthermore, I 
commit to working collaboratively to find opportunities to work with 
the Committee and Congress to help amplify and spread the work about 
TSA Cares to their constituents.

 b. Please provide a list of services provided by TSA Cares.
 Answer. It is my understanding that TSA Cares provides information 
on security procedures aimed at helping passengers in need of 
additional assistance to prepare for the airport security screening 
process. Please visit the publicly available TSA Cares website for a 
detailed list of services here: TSA Cares.

 c. Please provide data on the use of each type of service available 
through the TSA Cares program.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office with the requested data on the use of 
each type of service available through the TSA Cares program.

 d. How many Full-Time Employees does TSA Cares currently employee?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office the number of employees working on the 
TSA Cares program.

 e. Please describe the training for TSA Cares employees and provide 
relevant training materials.
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office information on TSA Cares employee 
training and training materials.

 f. How often are TSA Cares employees trained?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office information on how often TSA Cares 
employees are trained and I commit to ensure they receive the proper 
training.

 g. How does TSA evaluate the effectiveness of the TSA Cares 
program?
 Answer. TSA Cares provides information on security procedures aimed 
at helping passengers with disabilities, medical conditions, and 
individuals needing additional assistance to better prepare for the 
security screening process. It is my understanding TSA works with 
stakeholders to ensure proper procedures to ensure a smooth and 
seamless screening experience. If confirmed, I commit to looking into 
this further and getting back to the Committee and your office on how 
TSA evaluates the effectiveness of the TSA Cares program.

 h. What specific performance management metrics does TSA track to 
monitor the effectiveness of the TSA Cares program?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office with information on the performance, 
monitoring, and effectiveness of the TSA Cares program.

 i. Does TSA have a specific, measurable performance goal relating 
to increasing the percentage of travelers with disabilities served by 
TSA Cares from less than 0.3 percent to a substantially higher 
percentage?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this and providing 
the Committee and your office with information regarding TSA's 
performance goals for increasing the percentage of travelers with 
disabilities served by the TSA Cares program. Additionally, if 
confirmed, I commit to working closely with the Committee and your 
office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs to increase marketing 
and support of the TSA Cares program. Furthermore, if confirmed, I 
commit to working collaboratively to find opportunities to work with 
the Committee and Congress to help amplify and spread the word about 
TSA Cares to their constituents.
3. ``Shoes On'' Policy
 On July 8, 2025, Secretary Noem rescinded the TSA's decades old 
policy requiring travelers to remove their shoes at airport security 
screening checkpoints. Just one month later, the DHS Office of 
Inspector General sent DHS and TSA leadership a Seven-Day Letter 
explaining that they have concluded an audit of TSA's security 
screening and found that their machines cannot scan shoes worn on 
travelers' feet.
 Despite this, neither DHS nor TSA remedied the security deficiency, 
or provided a transparent justification and explanation as to why 
allowing all passengers to keep their shoes on did not pose a security 
risk. In fact, according to a public report published by The Wall 
Street Journal, upon receiving the Inspector General's classified final 
report--rather than contesting its finding or debunking its content, 
Secretary Noem acted to increase the classification level of the report 
and ordered that the report never be publicly released.
 Secretary Noem's reported actions were consistent with a classified 
report containing alarming findings or information that would cause 
``exceptionally grave damage'' to our Nation's national security if 
released. Yet, after increasing the classification level and blocking 
its public release, DHS and TSA then blew past the 90-day deadline to 
provide a management decision with planned corrective actions.
 In April 2026, I sent a letter to TSA asking that TSA rescind the 
``shoes on'' policy until the security vulnerability is addressed. In 
Acting Administrator Ha Nguyen McNeill's May 2026 response, she noted 
that ``current intelligence and risk assessments indicate no direct, 
credible threats related to shoes.'' Notably, she did not refuse public 
reports that certain TSA full body scanner machines are incapable of 
effectively scanning shoes worn on a traveler's feet.

 a. Will you commit to reviewing the Inspector General's report 
(OIG-26-01)?
 Answer. Yes.

 b. If TSA's current scanners are unable to scan shoes worn on 
travelers' feet, will you commit to reversing the ``Shoes On'' policy 
until the DHS Office of Inspector General closes out its 
recommendations to TSA?
 Answer. Currently, I have not been read into all of the details 
concerning this issue and am not in a position to make specific 
commitments.

 c. Will you commit to ensuring any scanners used under the TSA 
Gold+ program will have the ability to scan shoes worn on travelers' 
feet?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with Congress, the 
Committee, and your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs to 
modernize and deploy the latest, cutting-edge checkpoint screening 
technology.

 d. Please provide detailed justification for why the security 
classification of the OIG-26-01 report was elevated.
 Answer. I am not privy to this information.
4. Government Shutdown
 During your nomination hearing, you were committed to keeping TSOs 
paid in the event of a lapse in government funding. I agree, our TSOs 
are hardworking, dedicated employees. During the February 2026 lapse in 
appropriations for the Homeland Security funding bill, President Trump 
waited until March 27, 41 days to pay TSOs. Proving that, throughout 
both government shutdowns, President Trump could have paid TSOs for the 
entire duration of the lapse in appropriations but chose not to.
 Several Senators during your nomination hearing focused allegations 
of Democrats forcing a shutdown. On Monday, President Trump was on Fox 
and Friends and, in reference to the SAVE Act, said, ``It's so 
important that Republicans have to do it. Otherwise, we're going to 
have a shutdown in September.'' Trump also added: ``If you terminate 
the filibuster, everything goes away. And we do anything we want. We 
pass everything we want.'' Not only has President Trump showed that he 
has the authorities he believes necessary to pay TSOs, but the 
President is threatening a shutdown unless he gets his way.

 a. If confirmed, do you commit to ensuring that TSA employees will 
be paid in full and on time in the event of a lapse in appropriations?
 Answer. TSA has a critical, unique zero-fail national security 
mission. Ensuring paycheck stability and not forcing TSA employees to 
work without pay, as in the recent government shutdowns, is my primary 
personnel concern for the TSA workforce. If confirmed, I commit to 
working with the Committee to ensure the TSA workforce gets paid for 
the critical national security work they perform. TSA personnel should 
not have to work without being paid and be worried about feeding their 
families and how to pay for basic necessities. This underscores why it 
is critical that Congress pass appropriations legislation.
Biometric Data Sharing
 Mr. Cummins, in our meeting, you committed to serving with 
integrity. You emphasized the need to ``not breach the public's 
trust.'' The TSA Secure Flight Program was created in 2007 to identify 
passenger information for known or suspected terrorists or other 
individuals who may be a threat to transportation or national security.
 The Trump administration has been abusing the TSA Secure Flight 
Program and sharing data with ICE for civil immigration enforcement 
actions. There is reporting that Serco, your previous employer where 
you served as senior vice president, was a partner in training U.S. 
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) personnel.

 a. Please detail information that is currently being shared between 
TSA and ICE as it relates to civil immigration enforcement.
 Answer. I am not read into this, but I do know we operate as One 
DHS. If confirmed, I will continue to work collaboratively with DHS and 
our sister components to secure the Homeland and carry out our national 
security mission.

 b. Does TSA share information from the Electronic System for Travel 
Authorization (ESTA) with ICE?
 Answer. I am not read in on this.

 c. If yes, what information is shared and under what circumstances?
 Answer. I am not read in on this.

 d. Has TSA entered into an agreement or MOU with ICE allowing for 
the sharing of noncitizens' information, whether specific to ESTA or 
otherwise, for immigration enforcement?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to looking into this further.

 e. If yes, please provide the details of this agreement or MOU.
 Answer. I am not privy to this information.

 f. Please provide a copy of this agreement or MOU.
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.

 g. Does TSA have any discretion in contacting ICE? What criteria is 
TSA applying to determine whether contact with or referral to ICE is 
appropriate?
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.

 h. Since January 20, 2025, has TSA made any referrals to ICE for 
arrests at airports? If yes, please provide the number of referrals and 
the basis for these referrals.
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.

 i. Does TSA share information with CBP regarding travelers on 
domestic flights? If yes, when did this practice begin and what 
information is being shared? Please provide a copy of the agreement or 
MOU allowing for this information sharing.
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.
5. Privatization of TSA
 The Trump Administration has made clear its plans to privatize TSA 
and Mr. Cummins you were not shy in your nomination hearing about your 
support for the Trump administration's proposal. During our meeting, 
you committed to not requiring airports to participate in the Screening 
Partnership Program (SPP).
 During the hearing, you made clear that a key benefit of 
privatizing TSA would be funding certainty during any lapse in 
appropriations. However, as we have seen numerous times before, 
privatization can--and often does--lead to slashing the workforce, 
substantially less paid leave, inferior health insurance, lackluster 
retirement plans, and weakened worker protections.

 a. Mr. Cummins, do you commit, as you did in our meeting, to not 
requiring airports to participate in the Screening Partnership Program 
(SPP)?
 Answer. I support the FY 2027 President's Budget Request and the 
expansion of the Screening Partnership Program. Under current law, SPP 
is an opt-in program, and TSA does not have the statutory authority to 
require airport participation. If confirmed, I will administer the 
program consistent with existing law.

 b. Mr. Cummins, do you commit to not requiring airports to 
participate in the TSA Gold + program?
 Answer. The Gold+ program is optional. If confirmed, I commit to 
working with the Committee and stakeholders to leverage public-private 
partnerships to strengthen transportation security, streamline 
efficiencies and improve the passenger experience.

 c. Please clarify whether, if confirmed, you intend to pursue 
mandatory participation for all Category III/IV airports in SPP.
 Answer. I support the FY 2027 President's Budget Request, expansion 
of SPP, and exploring ways TSA can leverage public-private 
partnerships. Currently, SPP is an opt-in program that is optional for 
airports and there are 20 SPP airports nationwide, including San 
Francisco (SFO) and Kansas City (MCI) airports. TSA does not have the 
statutory authority to mandate airport participation in SPP. If 
Congress were to mandate airport participation in SPP, I commit to 
working with Congress, the Committee, airports, industry partners and 
stakeholders to implement that.

 d. The administration plans to cut roughly 8,400 TSA positions (14 
percent), redirecting approximately $477 million to SPP. Given these 
figures, how do you intend to ensure that reducing TSA personnel does 
not compromise checkpoint security, national aviation safety or 
capacity?
 Answer. I support the FY 2027 President's Budget Request, expansion 
of SPP, and exploring ways TSA can leverage public-private 
partnerships. Currently, SPP is an opt-in program that is optional for 
airports and there are 20 SPP airports nationwide, including San 
Francisco (SFO) and Kansas City (MCI) airports. TSA does not have the 
statutory authority to mandate airport participation in SPP. If 
Congress were to mandate airport participation in SPP, I commit to 
working with Congress, the Committee, airports, industry partners and 
stakeholders to implement that. Furthermore, I commit to modernizing 
checkpoint security screening, by combining cutting-edge technology 
with human talent, to strengthen security, increase operational 
efficiencies, and improve the passenger experience.

 e. Will you commit to fully supporting TSA officers' collective 
bargaining agreements and ensuring that any shift to private 
contractors does not erode these legally established rights?
 Answer. I will follow all court orders and abide by all Federal 
laws. However, TSA has a unique zero-fail national security mission. 
The CBA in place today impacts the agency's flexibility to scale on 
demand. The CBA requires shifts to be determined months in advance, 
making it difficult to adjust shifts based on changes in projected 
travel volume at an airport. It hinders TSA's ability to be agile and 
adjust to most efficiently deliver on its mission for the traveling 
public. The agency's national security mission should not be hindered 
by a CBA that hamstrings its ability to be flexible and agile.

 f. Please provide a detailed cost-benefit analysis comparing 
Federal-operated screening vs. privatized screening across multiple 
airport categories, including intangible costs like training quality, 
oversight, and security consistency.
 Answer. I am not privy to this information.
6. Passenger Rail Crew Protection
 TSA's mission is to protect our Nation's transportation systems to 
ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce. Among its 
responsibilities, TSA engages with passenger rail operators by 
conducting assessments to address security vulnerabilities. There are 
currently 113 passenger rail systems operating in the United States. 
One security issue on passenger rail that I am working to address is 
the assault of passenger rail crew members.
 Senator Hoeven and I introduced the Passenger Rail Crew Protection 
Act to enhance public safety by ensuring passenger rail crew members 
are provided with legal protections similar to those that have been 
afforded to flight crew members and attendants for decades. 
Specifically, the bipartisan bill would prohibit interfering with 
intercity and passenger rail crew members by establishing a uniform 
criminal prohibition against assaulting engineers, conductors, onboard 
personnel, employees performing safety-sensitive functions and other 
personnel responsible for operations, functions or customer service at 
a rail station.

 a. Do you believe it is important to ensure passenger rail crew 
members are able to execute their jobs without fear of assault?
 Answer. Yes.

 b. If confirmed as Administrator, would you be supportive of 
efforts, such as the Passenger Rail Crew Protection Act, to protect 
passenger rail crew members and increase safety on passenger rail?
 Answer. Yes.
7. Sanctuary Jurisdictions
 In May of 2026, Secretary Mullin threatened to pull DHS resources 
from airports located in so-called ``sanctuary cities'' to 
unconstitutionally coerce State and local governments to spend State 
and local tax dollars to carry out activities that are under the sole 
jurisdiction of the Federal Government: civil immigration enforcement. 
While there is no legal definition of ``sanctuary jurisdiction,'' the 
U.S. Department of Justice's list of such jurisdictions includes 
Illinois, Cook County and the City of Chicago.

 a. In FY2025, please provide the following metrics for Chicago 
O'Hare International Airport (ORD):

 i. The daily average number of travelers that passed through 
 TSA screening.

 ii. The monthly average number of travelers that passed through 
 TSA screening.

 iii. The yearly total number of travelers that passed through 
 TSA screening.

 Answer. I am not privy to this information.

 b. Do you believe pulling TSA resources away from ORD, the busiest 
airport in the world, would make travelers more safe or less safe?
 Answer. I am not aware of any plans as you describe.

 c. Do you believe national security resources should only be 
committed to protecting travelers from regions that are politically 
aligned with whichever administration is in charge?
 Answer. TSA's mission is to protect the Nation's transportation 
systems to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce. If 
confirmed, I will uphold that mission.

 d. If DHS follows through on pulling TSA resources away from 
locations the Trump administration has labeled ``sanctuary 
jurisdictions,'' will you commit to giving advance notice to Congress 
and State and local officials?
 Answer. I am not aware of any plans as you describe. If confirmed, 
I commit to working closely with Congress and the Committee on the 
matter.

 e. If DHS follows through on pulling TSA resources away from 
locations the Trump administration has labeled ``sanctuary 
jurisdictions,'' will you commit to a timely meeting with me and my 
staff?
 Answer. I am not aware of any plans as you describe.
8. Pipeline Security
 The natural gas pipeline sector supports TSA as the lead Federal 
agency for pipeline security, working in consultation with the 
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and the 
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA). As 
Congress discusses TSA reauthorization, stakeholders are seeking a 
stronger, more specialized pipeline security program that reflects the 
unique operational and cybersecurity needs of interstate natural gas 
pipelines.

 a. Do you agree that TSA should remain the lead Federal agency 
responsible for pipeline security?
 Answer. Yes.

 b. If confirmed, how would you strengthen TSA's engagement with 
pipeline operators while maintaining close coordination with CISA and 
PHMSA?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to the Committee to working more 
collaboratively with pipeline operators in close coordination with CISA 
and PHMSA.

 c. Would you support establishing a dedicated TSA Pipeline Security 
Division with personnel possessing specialized pipeline security and 
cybersecurity expertise?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee and 
your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs for pipeline 
security and cybersecurity.
9. Pipeline Security Expertise
 As cyber and physical threats continue to evolve, stakeholders have 
emphasized that TSA's pipeline security program requires personnel with 
specialized operational, cybersecurity and inspection expertise to 
effectively oversee critical energy infrastructure.

 a. Do you believe TSA currently has the staffing and technical 
expertise necessary to oversee pipeline security effectively?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee and 
your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs for pipeline 
security and cybersecurity.

 b. If not, what additional expertise or resources would you seek to 
strengthen TSA's pipeline security mission?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee and 
your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs to carry out its 
mission and strengthen pipeline security and cybersecurity.

 c. How would you ensure TSA inspectors and personnel possess the 
specialized knowledge needed to understand pipeline operations and 
cybersecurity risks?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee and 
your office to ensure TSA has the resources and staff it needs for 
pipeline security and cybersecurity.
10. Pipeline Cybersecurity Regulations
 Despite issuing a Enhancing Surface Cyber Risk Management proposal 
in early 2025, TSA's planned pipeline cybersecurity regulation has 
remained unfinished, while pipeline operators continue to operate under 
a series of temporary Security Directives originally issued in response 
to the Colonial Pipeline incident. Pipeline operators believe permanent 
regulations developed through notice-and-comment rulemaking would 
provide greater certainty, transparency, and long-term security 
benefits.

 a. If confirmed, will you prioritize finalizing TSA's pipeline 
cybersecurity regulation?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with this Committee to 
issue a final rule.

 b. Do you believe Security Directives should remain temporary 
emergency tools, rather than becoming a long-term substitute for formal 
rulemaking?
 Answer. Yes.

 c. Can you commit to ensuring that pipeline operators have 
meaningful opportunities to provide input before permanent 
cybersecurity requirements are finalized?
 Answer. Yes.
11. Cross Agency Coordination
 Many pipeline operators are subject to overlapping security 
requirements administered by TSA. the U.S. Coast Guard, the Securities 
and Exchange Commission (SEC), and CISA. Pipeline entities continue to 
urge improved harmonization and reciprocity among these requirements 
while maintaining strong security standards.

 a. How do you plan to improve coordination among the Federal 
agencies with pipeline security oversight responsibilities?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee, USCG, 
SEC, CISA, and pipeline stakeholders to continue to improve and 
maintain high security standards.
12. Pipeline Operator Engagement
 Pipeline operators have emphasized the importance of regular, 
trusted collaboration with TSA to address evolving physical and 
cybersecurity threats. Industry stakeholders support formalizing 
recurring engagement while protecting sensitive security information.

 a. If confirmed, will you commit to regular engagement with 
pipeline operators through structured industry meetings or similar 
forums?
 Answer. Yes.

 b. How will you ensure that TSA receives timely operational 
feedback from industry while appropriately protecting sensitive 
security information?
 Answer. If confirmed, I will work closely with the Committee, 
industry stakeholders, and interagency partners to ensure TSA receives 
timely operational feedback from industry in accordance with all 
Sensitive Security Information protections and protocols.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Jacky Rosen to 
 David Cummins
 Question 1. Despite this Administration's reckless policies that 
have negatively impacted tourism to the U.S. and cut visitors to Las 
Vegas by nearly 6 percent from 2024, Harry Reid International Airport 
in Las Vegas still saw nearly 55 million visitors last year. The day 
after Super Bowl 58, TSA set a new record at LAS with 104,000 travelers 
screened in one day. As the world's premier sports and entertainment 
destination, and with growing and record-setting visitation numbers, 
Nevada relies on the essential work of TSA agents to keep our airports, 
skies, and cities safe. In doing so, TSA is at the forefront of the 
traveler experience and on the frontlines of protecting our airspace 
from those who wish us harm.

 a. If confirmed, what actions would you take to improve the 
traveler experience through innovation and efficiency, while also 
prioritizing safety and security?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the Committee and 
your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs to modernize 
checkpoint security screening.

 Question 2. With so many visitors every year, Las Vegas is not only 
a major tourist and business destination, but also unfortunately a 
target for those who wish us harm. Thankfully, the Southern Nevada 
Counter Terrorism Center enables federal, state, tribal, and local law 
enforcement to rapidly and accurately respond to terrorist and other 
threats.

 a. If confirmed, how would you support TSA to coordinate with local 
fusion centers like the Southern Nevada Counter Terrorism Center to 
share and receive threat information to better protect our communities?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to continued collaboration with both 
our public and private sector partners to increase security and 
efficiency of operations.

 b. How is the increasing threat of domestic terrorism impacting 
TSA's work and its collaboration with local law enforcement?
 Answer. The rise of emerging threats requires TSA to remain agile 
and ready to respond accordingly. If confirmed, I commit to 
strengthening coordination with law enforcement, at all levels of 
government, to strengthen security to better safeguard the 
transportation sector and the public.

 Question 3. TSA has the enormous and complex responsibility of 
securing the Nation's transportation systems from both physical and 
cyber threats. With cyberattacks on American transportation 
infrastructure rising in frequency and severity, it's essential TSA 
work with NIST and CISA to protect our critical infrastructure, 
including the aviation sector, from persistent cyberthreats and support 
safe, secure, and efficient travel.

 a. If confirmed, Mr. Cummins, what actions would you take to ensure 
critical transportation sector operators continue to enhance their 
ability to defend against cybersecurity threats?
 Answer. Cybersecurity is a critical threat to transportation 
security. If confirmed, I commit to working collaboratively with this 
Committee, your office, interagency partners, and industry stakeholders 
to ensure critical transportation sector operators continue to enhance 
their ability to defend against cybersecurity threats.

 b. In 2024, the TSA issued a notice of proposed rulemaking related 
to establishing additional cyber risk management requirements on 
certain critical transportation operators like those in the pipeline 
and rail industry. Will you commit to finalizing this critical rule, if 
confirmed?
 Answer. Cybersecurity is a critical threat to transportation 
security. If confirmed, I commit to working with this Committee to 
issue a final rule. It is important to raise security baselines and 
provide industry with long-term regulatory certainty.

 c. If confirmed, how would you work with other Federal agencies, 
including NIST and CISA, to harden our cybersecurity?
 Answer. Cybersecurity is a critical threat to transportation 
security. If confirmed, I commit to working collaboratively with this 
Committee, your office, industry stakeholders, and interagency partners 
(such as NIST and CISA) to continue to enhance their ability to defend 
against cybersecurity threats.

 Question 4. Yesterday, two plain clothed and unidentified 
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers--one wearing a 
mask--reportedly attempted to arrest a person inside one of the 
terminals at Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas. They 
appeared to be assisted by a TSA agent in tackling an elderly man, who 
the Las Vegas Metro Police Department later found had no outstanding 
warrants. This unacceptable action is another stark reminder that ICE 
continues to act with impunity, instilling fear in our communities, and 
in this case, the traveling public.

 a. Mr. Cummins, we know that TSA has entered into an information 
sharing agreement with ICE. Does this agreement require proof from ICE 
that the individuals they are requesting information about have active 
warrants against them? If you are confirmed, and if the agreement does 
not require evidence from ICE, will you commit to requiring ICE to 
provide evidence of an active warrant before information is shared or 
before TSA assists in ICE enforcement actions in airports?
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.

 b. Does TSA have any policy regarding how law enforcement agencies 
are to identify themselves when they are in airports or when attempting 
to take enforcement actions in airports? If not, how would you address 
this if confirmed?
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.

 c. Does ICE agents failing to identify themselves or masking their 
identities with face coverings jeopardize passengers' safety and 
security? Would you allow this if confirmed?
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information.

 d. I know that you were a long time Senior Vice President at Serco, 
who are contracted with the Government to provide training to ICE 
officers. To your knowledge, has Serco in the past or currently trained 
ICE agents on how to conceal or mask their identities?
 Answer. I did not oversee or work on these contracts.
 ______
 
 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. John Hickenlooper to 
 David Cummins
1. Collaboration with Customs and Border Patrol at International 
 Airports
 Mr. Cummins, in your nomination hearing, you stated that you had 
not spoken to Secretary Mullin or Customs and Border Patrol 
Commissioner Scott regarding plans to stop processing international 
travelers and cargo at major U.S. airports and remove Customs officers 
from international airports in so-called ``sanctuary cities''.
 You also said that you understood the security and economic risks 
of these potential actions. You acknowledged that we are in a very 
politicized environment, and that aviation security is impaired by 
politics.
 Following this, when I asked your whether you would carry out these 
plans if directed, you stated if you were confirmed as TSA 
administrator and the TSA decided to partially or completely reduce 
services at sanctuary city airports, you remain committed to briefing 
the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Justice regarding the 
ramifications of these actions.

 Question 1. Mr. Cummins, given your apparent awareness of the 
significant ramifications associated with cutting essential services to 
airports, please explain what consequences would be associated with 
such a decision.
 Answer. I am not aware of any plans regarding this matter. If 
confirmed, I commit to notifying the Committee and your office on the 
matter.

 Question 2. Mr. Cummins, 49 USC 114 clearly outlines that the 
responsibilities of the Administrator of the Transportation Security 
Administration are ensuring that there are adequate ``security plans 
addressing security risks, including threats, vulnerabilities, and 
consequences, for aviation, railroad, ferry, highway, maritime, 
pipeline, public transportation, over-the-road bus, and other 
transportation infrastructure assets.'' Do you believe that reducing 
TSA personnel at major American cities meets the safety requirements 
that the TSA Administrator is tasked with upholding?
 Answer. I am not aware of any plans regarding this matter.
2. Privatization of TSA
 The President's FY27 budget request includes an expansion of the 
Screening Partnership Program. This program allows airports to 
privatize their screeners, eliminating over 4,500 Federal positions. 
There would also be no guarantee that private screeners would provide 
their employees with comparable pay or benefits. In the hearing, you 
stated that the starting pay is typically higher.

 Question 3. How does pay for more experienced workers, not entry-
level positions, compare between private screeners and Federal 
employees?
 Answer. Federal law requires that private screeners under the 
Screening Partnership Program receive pay and benefits commensurate to 
those of Federal employees, including experienced personnel. As a 
result, compensation for private screeners is designed to closely match 
that of their Federal counterparts to ensure parity and retention.

 Question 4. How will you ensure that benefits from private 
companies are also at or above the levels received by TSA employees?
 Answer. Federal law, and the executed Screening Partnership Program 
contracts, requires it.

 In your testimony before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security 
and Governmental Affairs, you stated that your number one priority was 
to improve staff morale.

 Question 5. Mr. Cummins, do you think that eliminating thousands of 
positions at TSA will improve morale?
 Answer. I believe ensuring paycheck stability and not forcing TSA 
employees to work without pay for extended durations due to government 
shutdowns is the most consequential act TSA can take to improve morale.
3. Transportation Technology Center
 Pueblo, Colorado, is the home to the world's premier railway 
testing. The facility is called the Transportation Technology Center 
also known as the TTC. The TTC has a facility that serves as TSA's 
primary hands-on training hub for freight rail, passenger rail, hazmat 
security, and pipeline infrastructure.
 Security threats to the freight rail system are growing rapidly. In 
2025 alone, major U.S. railroads reported over 75,000 theft incidents 
resulting in more than $200 million in losses. Sophisticated cargo 
theft often targets high-value, hazardous, or sensitive loads.

 Question 6. Mr. Cummins, how do you plan to utilize TSA resources 
to respond to the cargo theft crisis?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working closely with the 
Department of Transportation, state and local law enforcement partners, 
and industry stakeholders to bolster the security of the Nation's 
freight rail systems and cargo.

 Question 7. Mr. Cummins, what are your plans for supporting the 
training and testing at the TTC to ensure the security of our 
transportation sector?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with Congress, the 
Committee, and your office to ensure TSA has the resources it needs to 
ensure robust training and testing at the TCC, fostering collaboration 
with industry partners, and supporting the adoption of innovative 
technologies.
4. Security Impacts of Weather Modeling and Forecasting
 The United States is widely recognized as the global leader in 
aviation weather services because of its sustained Federal investment 
in weather research, observations, and forecasting technology.
 These services include the tools and models developed at the 
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). The work that NCAR 
does between weather forecasting and decision support helps create a 
more predictable aviation system, which ultimately decreases 
disruptions, delays, and uncertainty, reducing stress on security 
operations and alleviating economic impacts.

 Question 8. Mr. Cummins, how important are these kinds of 
federally-funded forecasting and support capabilities to maintaining a 
safe, secure, and resilient aviation transportation system?
 Answer. I am not privy to this information.

 Question 9. Mr. Cummins, what would the consequences be for 
aviation security and the traveling public if these kinds of 
operational capabilities could not be developed?
 Answer. Currently, I am not privy to this information
5. Pipeline Security
 TSA leads Federal pipeline security in collaboration with the 
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and the 
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA).

 Question 10. Mr. Cummins, how would you strengthen TSA's role in 
protecting the unique operational and security needs of interstate 
natural gas pipelines while maintaining close coordination with CISA 
and PHMSA?
 Answer. If confirmed, I commit to the agency working more 
collaboratively with pipeline operators in close coordination with CISA 
and PHMSA.
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 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Brian Schatz to 
 David Cummins
1. Security Screening Equipment
 The screening equipment at Hawaii airports are in need of service, 
which has resulted in longer security lines and occasional closures. 
For Hawaii residents, air travel is critical to get to work, attend 
appointments, and see family. However, airports have reported 
challenges to receiving the replacement parts and servicing they need.

 a. By which date will TSA resolve all dysfunctional screening 
equipment at Hawaii airports to ensure they are fully operational, 
including any necessary replacements of such equipment or their parts?
 Answer. Currently I am not privy to this information.

 b. Do you commit to ensuring TSA factors in the unique 
circumstances facing Hawaii airports for security screening equipment 
needs? For example, Hawaii airports are exposed to higher-than-typical 
humidity and salt air, which can contribute to increased servicing 
needs.
 Answer. Yes.

 c. Do you commit to ensuring TSA responds to screening equipment 
concerns at Hawaii airports in a timely manner under your leadership?
 Answer. Yes.

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